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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://theguysperspective.com/essays/et-tu-tiger/comment-page-1/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I&#039;ve been MIA --- I love the new site but you no longer update on blogger blog roll :(

Anyway back to the post -&gt; very well said!! I to have always been a Tiger fan but at this point I feel so sorry for his wife (soon to be ex) and his kids. I&#039;m sure living in the public eye comes with lots of pressure but come on, did he seriously think he wouldn&#039;t get caught??!!!</description>
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<p>Anyway back to the post -&gt; very well said!! I to have always been a Tiger fan but at this point I feel so sorry for his wife (soon to be ex) and his kids. I&#8217;m sure living in the public eye comes with lots of pressure but come on, did he seriously think he wouldn&#8217;t get caught??!!!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://theguysperspective.com/essays/et-tu-tiger/comment-page-1/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ChrisJ....that certainly would be tougher. Like anything, the more options you have the more things you have to say no too. My sense is the people who aren&#039;t going to cheat, still wouldn&#039;t, but the people who are on the fence, might jump off quickly. And those who already were going to cheat, well they&#039;re in playland.

@nothingprofound......I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;cheat.&quot; If you just mean cheat in general, then maybe, but if we&#039;re talking about cheating on a partner, I have to say it&#039;s less than half. But that&#039;s just the info I&#039;ve gathered over the years with all THE GUYS. But of course you&#039;ve polled a different audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ChrisJ&#8230;.that certainly would be tougher. Like anything, the more options you have the more things you have to say no too. My sense is the people who aren&#8217;t going to cheat, still wouldn&#8217;t, but the people who are on the fence, might jump off quickly. And those who already were going to cheat, well they&#8217;re in playland.</p>
<p>@nothingprofound&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;cheat.&#8221; If you just mean cheat in general, then maybe, but if we&#8217;re talking about cheating on a partner, I have to say it&#8217;s less than half. But that&#8217;s just the info I&#8217;ve gathered over the years with all THE GUYS. But of course you&#8217;ve polled a different audience.</p>
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		<title>By: nothingprofound</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most men and women in our culture &quot;cheat&quot; at some point in their lives.  It&#039;s almost unrealistic to expect them not to.  It might be even more worth asking why some people don&#039;t.  I&#039;d love to hear the answers to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most men and women in our culture &#8220;cheat&#8221; at some point in their lives.  It&#8217;s almost unrealistic to expect them not to.  It might be even more worth asking why some people don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;d love to hear the answers to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so refreshing to hear men talk like this and condemn cheating. Every man I&#039;ve ever dated that has cheated has offered those same excuses for their behavior and it&#039;s BS. Even the ones who haven&#039;t cheated have offered those excuses for their friends who have. I&#039;m glad to know that not all men are the narcissistic a**holes I&#039;ve encountered. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so refreshing to hear men talk like this and condemn cheating. Every man I&#8217;ve ever dated that has cheated has offered those same excuses for their behavior and it&#8217;s BS. Even the ones who haven&#8217;t cheated have offered those excuses for their friends who have. I&#8217;m glad to know that not all men are the narcissistic a**holes I&#8217;ve encountered. <img src='http://theguysperspective.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fatibony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatibony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don’t have a clue ....why do  men cheat what a Mess! ..But then I do feel sorry for him as well as his family... I suppose I will agree with Chris Rock, “Men are only as faithful as their opportunities.”. May God help him thru all this ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don’t have a clue &#8230;.why do  men cheat what a Mess! ..But then I do feel sorry for him as well as his family&#8230; I suppose I will agree with Chris Rock, “Men are only as faithful as their opportunities.”. May God help him thru all this &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisJ</title>
		<link>http://theguysperspective.com/essays/et-tu-tiger/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many men could withstand the constant offers of sex that celebrities get. In the seventies, a friend of mine (male) was in a moderately famous rock band. It was unbelievable how much sex he was offered all the time; he loved every minute of it, but even he was shocked by the sheer number of women who threw themselves at him and the other band members.
Maybe it&#039;s ego and competition as others here have suggested, but I really do wonder how people would fare in the same situation.

Having said that, I think Tiger needs to get his house in order and figure out how to handle the situation, and I feel sorry for his family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many men could withstand the constant offers of sex that celebrities get. In the seventies, a friend of mine (male) was in a moderately famous rock band. It was unbelievable how much sex he was offered all the time; he loved every minute of it, but even he was shocked by the sheer number of women who threw themselves at him and the other band members.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s ego and competition as others here have suggested, but I really do wonder how people would fare in the same situation.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think Tiger needs to get his house in order and figure out how to handle the situation, and I feel sorry for his family.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Stahlnecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy Stahlnecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too I&#039;, rooting for Tiger and his family and that both men and women determine how to learn to commit  to monogamy in these conditions..I&#039;ve been married three times thus it took me awhile to learn how to stay married so there&#039;s not judgement we all have a lot to understand and the  information never stops changing and you have to  commit to staying in touch with each other and growing together rather then one moving forward and the other not.  It&#039;s no easy road to a successful and long marriage however, it can happen although we need a real overhaul on standards and I&#039;m not sure we&#039;ll ever really see it..

Dorothy from grammology
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too I&#8217;, rooting for Tiger and his family and that both men and women determine how to learn to commit  to monogamy in these conditions..I&#8217;ve been married three times thus it took me awhile to learn how to stay married so there&#8217;s not judgement we all have a lot to understand and the  information never stops changing and you have to  commit to staying in touch with each other and growing together rather then one moving forward and the other not.  It&#8217;s no easy road to a successful and long marriage however, it can happen although we need a real overhaul on standards and I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll ever really see it..</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://theguysperspective.com/essays/et-tu-tiger/comment-page-1/#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very very affected at the news when it came out. Not that I ever idolized Tiger Woods. But just because the news and the gory details were so hurtful, I felt. As a woman, I myself was hurt hearing all those...wome...talk so blatantly in the open about their affairs with T.W. as if they were born without brains, without a heart, and without a soul. As if the only parts of their bodies is a vagina.

It was all too hurtful.

And now the toll is up to 11???

Not all men are like Tiger. I know that. And I think that most men are disgusted by him.

I think that he is a cheater, because he thinks that the money he has gives him the right to.

Having too much money without the strong character and upbringing and value and soul- is a path to destruction.

It IS all too devastating. But. He is just one man. Who happens to be good at playing golf and so everybody knows him. He doesn&#039;t represent manhood. Not at all.

I wonder how his parents raised him. Where is he from? The slums?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very very affected at the news when it came out. Not that I ever idolized Tiger Woods. But just because the news and the gory details were so hurtful, I felt. As a woman, I myself was hurt hearing all those&#8230;wome&#8230;talk so blatantly in the open about their affairs with T.W. as if they were born without brains, without a heart, and without a soul. As if the only parts of their bodies is a vagina.</p>
<p>It was all too hurtful.</p>
<p>And now the toll is up to 11???</p>
<p>Not all men are like Tiger. I know that. And I think that most men are disgusted by him.</p>
<p>I think that he is a cheater, because he thinks that the money he has gives him the right to.</p>
<p>Having too much money without the strong character and upbringing and value and soul- is a path to destruction.</p>
<p>It IS all too devastating. But. He is just one man. Who happens to be good at playing golf and so everybody knows him. He doesn&#8217;t represent manhood. Not at all.</p>
<p>I wonder how his parents raised him. Where is he from? The slums?</p>
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		<title>By: Tina T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a post a while back that dealt with celebs and relationships, and I think I may do an updated on because it applies to so many who have disastrous relationships whether it&#039;s infidelity or just a string of troubled to relationships.  I think that the big ego that makes them so successful needs to be checked at the door when it comes to their relationship (which I know is easier said than done).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a post a while back that dealt with celebs and relationships, and I think I may do an updated on because it applies to so many who have disastrous relationships whether it&#8217;s infidelity or just a string of troubled to relationships.  I think that the big ego that makes them so successful needs to be checked at the door when it comes to their relationship (which I know is easier said than done).</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow....excellent post. Seriously. Very well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;.excellent post. Seriously. Very well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Date Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Date Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had hoped this tabloid story would turn out to be false. You said it best-&quot;he&#039;s Tiger!&quot; Why would he do this? Its very disappointing.
As for the cheating aspect, I agree that its not men (or women!) Its individuals that cheat. Selfish ones! There are good people out there. Its really too bad our society can&#039;t focus on them for a change.The best things in life are acheived through hard work, dedication and time. None of this instant crap. Like instant coffee-its not as satisfying and leaves a bad taste in your mouth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hoped this tabloid story would turn out to be false. You said it best-&#8221;he&#8217;s Tiger!&#8221; Why would he do this? Its very disappointing.<br />
As for the cheating aspect, I agree that its not men (or women!) Its individuals that cheat. Selfish ones! There are good people out there. Its really too bad our society can&#8217;t focus on them for a change.The best things in life are acheived through hard work, dedication and time. None of this instant crap. Like instant coffee-its not as satisfying and leaves a bad taste in your mouth!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Voisard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Voisard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great post.  I am a woman, and I have also been a cheater.  In fact, it was usually me who cheated in my relationships.

I don&#039;t do that anymore.

I don&#039;t think I could connect sexually, or should I say, I did not know how to be intimate.  I don&#039;t want to play the victim here, but sometimes things happen in our childhoods that make us disconnect from intimacy and love.  Not knowing I was disconnected, I craved sex...and it was much easier with men that I didn&#039;t know well.

It&#039;s taken me a long time to climb out of that horrible little box, and I&#039;m not the same woman anymore.  But when I watch Tiger, all I can think of is I wonder....is he having the same issues?

I don&#039;t know much about his upbringing--none of us do--but we&#039;ve all heard tales of how his father pushed him into golfing long before he had a choice.  His childhood was taken away.  Sort of like Michael Jackson.  Now, if you believe Michael was a pedofile or you don&#039;t (and I don&#039;t) it was quite apparent he wasn&#039;t capable of muture and intimate relationships.

I think Tiger was crying out for help.  And this might have been the best thing that ever happened to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great post.  I am a woman, and I have also been a cheater.  In fact, it was usually me who cheated in my relationships.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t do that anymore.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I could connect sexually, or should I say, I did not know how to be intimate.  I don&#8217;t want to play the victim here, but sometimes things happen in our childhoods that make us disconnect from intimacy and love.  Not knowing I was disconnected, I craved sex&#8230;and it was much easier with men that I didn&#8217;t know well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s taken me a long time to climb out of that horrible little box, and I&#8217;m not the same woman anymore.  But when I watch Tiger, all I can think of is I wonder&#8230;.is he having the same issues?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about his upbringing&#8211;none of us do&#8211;but we&#8217;ve all heard tales of how his father pushed him into golfing long before he had a choice.  His childhood was taken away.  Sort of like Michael Jackson.  Now, if you believe Michael was a pedofile or you don&#8217;t (and I don&#8217;t) it was quite apparent he wasn&#8217;t capable of muture and intimate relationships.</p>
<p>I think Tiger was crying out for help.  And this might have been the best thing that ever happened to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Carpetbagger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carpetbagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget competitive drive. There&#039;s something about these elite athletes that they can&#039;t turn off. It&#039;s something about the need to win and conquer. It leads them to gambling, infidelity, and all kinds of bad choices. Wilt Chamberlin had it. Magic Johnson had it. Walter Payton had it. Michael Jordan had it. What those guys didn&#039;t have was the &quot;Gentleman Golfer&quot; image. Tiger is venturing quickly into Mike Tyson territory... where nothing I hear about him will shock me any more.

10 women so far? Does that put him on the back 9?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget competitive drive. There&#8217;s something about these elite athletes that they can&#8217;t turn off. It&#8217;s something about the need to win and conquer. It leads them to gambling, infidelity, and all kinds of bad choices. Wilt Chamberlin had it. Magic Johnson had it. Walter Payton had it. Michael Jordan had it. What those guys didn&#8217;t have was the &#8220;Gentleman Golfer&#8221; image. Tiger is venturing quickly into Mike Tyson territory&#8230; where nothing I hear about him will shock me any more.</p>
<p>10 women so far? Does that put him on the back 9?</p>
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		<title>By: Acadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has no right to privacy!  NONE!</description>
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		<title>By: ethelmaepotter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Guys!  I do feel for Tiger, not because he was caught, but because his infidelity has become a number one topic of conversation around the world.  Celebrity comes with a price, and the right to privacy is a big part of that price.  His poor family will also have to pay the privacy price, and he will have to live with that shame.
And as for that Chris Rock quote, I had no idea he&#039;d said that!  I thought my husband came up with that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Guys!  I do feel for Tiger, not because he was caught, but because his infidelity has become a number one topic of conversation around the world.  Celebrity comes with a price, and the right to privacy is a big part of that price.  His poor family will also have to pay the privacy price, and he will have to live with that shame.<br />
And as for that Chris Rock quote, I had no idea he&#8217;d said that!  I thought my husband came up with that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Naughtie Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naughtie Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t feel sorry for Tiger, or any other cheater.  I agree with most of your post, but I think one component is missing.  Some men cheat because they simply can.  There isn&#039;t a real reason for it, ask me how I know.  The funny thing is that if Tiger thought his wife was tipping on him, he&#039;d instantly become more attentive and focused on her.  Something about another man sampling what you think is yours can make a cheater indignant.  Of course as soon as the threat is over, they&#039;re back to their cheating ways.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, women can be just as bad.  However, it&#039;s been my experience that when a woman cheats she&#039;s looking for a replacement.  When men cheat it&#039;s because their playstation is on the fritz (wink).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t feel sorry for Tiger, or any other cheater.  I agree with most of your post, but I think one component is missing.  Some men cheat because they simply can.  There isn&#8217;t a real reason for it, ask me how I know.  The funny thing is that if Tiger thought his wife was tipping on him, he&#8217;d instantly become more attentive and focused on her.  Something about another man sampling what you think is yours can make a cheater indignant.  Of course as soon as the threat is over, they&#8217;re back to their cheating ways.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, women can be just as bad.  However, it&#8217;s been my experience that when a woman cheats she&#8217;s looking for a replacement.  When men cheat it&#8217;s because their playstation is on the fritz (wink).</p>
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		<title>By: askcherlock</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, GUYS. I do not feel sorry for Tiger Woods, but then I don&#039;t feel sorry for anyone who cheats and then it hits the fan. A person either has good character or they don&#039;t. What I will never understand is why a person stays married but cheats time after time? Is it because of the alimony/child support issues, or as in Tiger&#039;s case, an image issue? A simple, &quot;I don&#039;t love you anymore so here&#039;s the deal&quot; would be much better all around. Do guys know that women cheat too? For some reason it doesn&#039;t get the play that guys do, but they are out there, believe me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, GUYS. I do not feel sorry for Tiger Woods, but then I don&#8217;t feel sorry for anyone who cheats and then it hits the fan. A person either has good character or they don&#8217;t. What I will never understand is why a person stays married but cheats time after time? Is it because of the alimony/child support issues, or as in Tiger&#8217;s case, an image issue? A simple, &#8220;I don&#8217;t love you anymore so here&#8217;s the deal&#8221; would be much better all around. Do guys know that women cheat too? For some reason it doesn&#8217;t get the play that guys do, but they are out there, believe me.</p>
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