Dear Guys,
This guy and I have been hooking up for about three months almost every week, or every couple of weeks. He and I are involved in the same group of friends. So we’ve chatted quite a bit, and hung out a bit, and he would do really nice things for me or for other people while I was around, and (as stupid as this sounds) leave really cute posts on my wall on Facebook.
Then one night, four months ago, we both were drunk and ended up making out. It happened again the week after that. So we decided we wanted to talk about it.. or um.. I guess I decided I wanted to talk about it, because I generally do not just hook up with men while I’m drunk. We’re also both about to study abroad for a year. We both decided it wasn’t a good idea to keep doing this, because it’s a bad idea to be attached to someone who isn’t going to be around. And I still agree with that.
But it keeps happening. And now we don’t really talk at all outside of hooking up. I want to just hang out with him sober again, but he seems to not care very much.
I also know that he’s been hurt pretty badly in the past by a girl, and he ended up lashing out at her, and hasn’t been quite the same (especially in regards to girls) since. And this information isn’t coming second-hand; I was there when it happened. (As I said, we’re in the same group of friends).
We still haven’t had sex. I’m a virgin, and I’m not going to become… *ahem* a not-virgin when I’m drunk. And I’m not going to do it with someone who doesn’t respect me enough to see me outside of his bedroom or mine. I have performed oral on him though, a few times..
Can he really be doing these kinds of things with me, this frequently, and not have feelings for me? Is that possible? Would guys do that? Especially with a girl who isn’t actually having sex with them? Or is oral kind of the same thing…
D
Dear D,
Thanks for your question.
First, let’s clarify what sex is. This whole gray area of oral sex started around the time of the Monica Lewinsky affair. Do you remember? You might be too young. But click on the link, or do some research. Fascinating stuff. Anyway, some people define sex as only intercourse, but for most people, anytime the genitalia is involved it’s pretty much sex. So yes, oral—fellatio or cunnilingus—is pretty much sex. Certainly it’s intimate enough to be stimulating another person with your mouth wouldn’t you say? But if you want to be technical, yes you’re certainly still a virgin, but for practical purposes, or if a guy in the future asks you if you’ve had sex before, it could be something you’d want to disclose. Or for that matter, something you didn’t want to disclose.
Could a guy receive oral sex every week without being emotionally attached or invested in a woman? Absolutely. In fact, for some guys it’s the perfect situation. (We’re not saying all, but certainly any type of Booty Call or Friends with Benefits situation is something guys search for, or certainly wouldn’t turn down if it was offered, especially if they weren’t in a serious relationship with a woman.)
We don’t think this is the best situation for you. He’s getting some of his needs met but you’re not. And typically these types of arrangements don’t transition into serious relationships. Eventually they just fizzle after the woman gets fed up. You might want to check out our video on “Friends with Benefits” for some more insights.
Don’t feel badly. This happens more than you might think. But the best thing to do is move on and try to find a guy that is not only willing, but excited, to see you outside the bedroom. (Read our “Relationship Memoirs” page to see how this turns out for Rebecca.)
Feel free to ask us a follow up question and keep us posted on how this progresses. Good luck.
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I think I'm ashamed at how weak I was, how strong my fear was that my guy friebd will leave me, when in fact there is nothing to hold on to. He wasn't serious, and I was forcing him to give me what I want when he isn't ready. I was hurt, and guilty... But now I'm getting over it. What's left is more of Shame, and a hurt pride. On retrospect the trip made me realised how well I clicked with my bf, and that he was willing to compromise and see me happy. We had a talk about my friend, and he told me he understand. I believed him because he is an open book. In fact, today was my bday, and he made plans and proposed. I thought I wasn't ready but I was actually happy and touched at that moment. So I said yes. I hope this is a happy ending, and I saw how close I was to ruining this.
@Lady in Dilemma.........Fear should not keep you in a relationship, which means fear of hurting someone, or fear of being alone. That said, are you now truly open to your boyfriend or is there still residue left from this other guy. That could be what's holding you back. How do you know when you've found THE ONE? Some people go by a feeling, and some people just make the decision. We can't answer that for you, but consider this. A wise friend once said: Everyone slowly gravitates towards the middle. Physical attraction can fade over time. And friendship grows over time. Both kind of meet in the middle. If that helps. Nice to hear from you.
Sorry for the typos as my phone isn't tt sensitive anymore and it was hard to type. I fear not hurting him, and not bring able to find someone who loves me like him. I feel like a selfish moron.
Hi guys. I'm back.Thanks for your advice. I've thought through things and deleted my friend's contact and Facebook. I don't think he respect me anymore after what happened. I was probably more afraid to lose him, which I feel is my personal moment of weakness. So I'm trying to move on. Meanwhile, I have been trying to move things on with my boyfriend. He knew about my friend ( not the details), but generally that I was distracted and attracted to some one else before. He said he understand and I believed him. He said he's willing to wait till I'm fully moved on. While I feel very comfortable with him, we clicked very well. But I just don't feel excitement or a 'want' to see him. I'm making effort to because I think owe us to try again. How do you know if someone is the one?
@Erica....We're confused. Are you currently still with your boyfriend? And what exactly do you want? Would you rather be with this guy or your boyfriend? Let us know and we'll offer our opinion.
Hi I've a friend who was my FWB. We never got to sex but had heavy petting. Both of us were attached for more than 5 years to our partners but facing problems in a long distance relationship. His gf broke up with him, and he was crushed. He told me he wants to be friends, w/o the benefits. At that point of time i was avoiding him as i felt that things didn;t feel righ and i felt guilty. But i wanted to have a talk with him and that was when i knew he broke up.I had 1/2 episodes of drama with him because i felt so emotionally unbalanced prior to that. I didn;t want to remain friends but he looked so sincere so i said ok. After a while i decided to patch up with my bf because i felt that he is still the best option. My fwb knew and gave me his blessings. He told me Love cna overcome anything. After that he seemed changed. He don;t initiate contact as much, and he seems internally angry at everyone. He would refuse to hang out sometimes, at times his mood is extremely good. We communciate mostly by texts. I tried to care for him as a friend. He had lashed out at me twice via texts, and the during the second time he said i am always so "drama". When he realised it was a misundertanding (some of the text messages did go through, so the message was disjointed and he misinterpreted). I asked him if he wanted eat lunch and he told me he was going out, only to let me catch him chatting to a friend in the schoold garden an hour later. I decided to cut all contact. He sensed it and he messaged me to ask me out the next day. I didn;t reply for a few days and when i did i say; i don;t think we should message anymore. If you want, talk to meface to face. So he came over to my room to explain that he was intending to go out but his friend wanted to go Canada study and was asking him about the application..so he decided to stay and talk to her. I knew he does not like the girl but treat her as an older sister because she is many years older and she can't speak english very well and they came from the same country. He also said he knew of he had not talked to me, that would be the end because he understand that i am angry. He also thought that i might be happier without him in my life, but he don;t know what made him contacted me. yesterday, he cooked dinner and asked me if i wanted to eat. I did not reply till 20 minutes later but he didn't bother to call as well. He knew i was having exams. He said he cooked my favourites and had me in mind and asked me for praise but i just smiled, because i didn;t believe him. I sensed that he didn;t enjoy my company as much as when we first started out as friends, and i'm not sure why he is doing what he did. He did not initiate contact as much, but yet he is willing to hang out. I try to keep a physical distance, but he oftens try to unitentionally brush against me, or to poke me in the tummy. He likes to flash his abs at me as well. His comments were weird too like: him: i am running out of underwear. maybe i should wear it one more day me: ee him: i think i need to buy more. but they stretch so easily me: buy a size smaller? him: is that what you do? me: no reply him: i think i cna only fit a L or him rolling up his pants to imitate this cartoon character me: that is disgusting. You look like you are wearing hot pants. Can you oll them down. him: i just want to experience what girls feels when they wear short shorts me: their shorts are tighter him: mine canot go any tighter..my face will go blue He also told me that there was this girl at the restaurant where he is moonlighting. her visa is expiring and the only way she can stay is to either marry a local or declare herself as a dependent on smone who had a visa. He said that his colleagues were pressurising him to help her and he blew up at them. He also said that there was a guy who was willing to take the girl as a dependent but she rejected him. Yet she did ask my friend casually if he would take her as a dependent. I asked him why he is is telling me this, he said just saying. I;m not sure if the conversation are suggestive or if he is flirting or he simple treats me as a guy? Does he want to see if i am open to FWB again? Or does he like me now? Are we stringing each other along? I don't know what he is trying to do? I thought we had agreed to remain friends and i asked him for lunch when i cooked for a few friends. I'm not looking for anything more. I just feel that he blow hot and cold. He said it is not me, it's him.
@Amy....Well keep us posted on this situation, or how you're doing in general. And come back and ask another question anytime. And we hope you get a chance to share our site with all of your friends. Thanks. We do appreciate it.
I totally agree as I've been there before where boundaries were blurred....quick like. Lol. Who's to say he would actually contact me again or not. I do know it would be awhile before I would even allow myself to hang out with him. I've been single for almost 2 years and I'm at a point where I feel like it will be impossible to meet someone so out of the loop since its been so long since I've dated. Thanks for your input!
@Amy.......This is great. Guys respect anyone that's straightforward, as long as they're not being rude or disrespectful. We don't think you were. As far as hanging out goes, be careful. We'd hate for you to be friends with him, and then derail your progress as you move on from this guy. Do you really want to be friends, or do you just want to keep the connection open just in case something might develop? Sorry, we have to ask. Because if it's the latter, we'd suggest moving on. We think the friendship could get "undefined" pretty quickly, if you know what we're saying. We're talking about blurred boundaries. Thoughts?
since he stopped texting me over a week ago he has been obsessively liking all my fb post every day. it got really annoying so I sent him this, "dude, i totally understood from our last texting convo we are not on the same page lol you don't have to keep indirectly staying in contact by liking my FB posts each day. It's kind of annoying just had to put that out there since i'm all about being straight forward, friend ;)" him: sorry i didn't mean it to be that way. you honestly just post a lot i agree with sorry. me: thats cool its all good i was just sayin ya dig?" him:"i didn't mean to be annoying or anything i figured i was more annoying texting you all the time" me: "i think it was just annoying because i'm sick of no one ever being on the same page as me lol i just refuse to lower my standards i'm glad i said what i wanted early so i didn't waste my time. thank you for not leading me on and just not contacting me. him: well my other thing is i'd love to hang out with you more. we had a blast. it just doesn't always have to end in sex. just have fun out on the town. me: i'm all for that. friendship. just be straight up with me one of my biggest pet peeves are people who skirt around shit. call me sometime and we'll hang him: i'll do my best and i'll hit ya up soon! Is it bitching for me to call him out in his game? I know if i were a guy i would respect a girl who was straight forward and told me what she wanted. But then again guys minds think way differently than ours. Part of me feels like he was just trying to save face by saying he wants to hang out more. I really would like to be friends. what are your thoughts?
@Amy.....Don't second guess yourself. You didn't do anything wrong. (People tend to do that when they don't get answers from the other person.) Trust us, when you find the right person you won't be second guessing yourself at all. Hang in there and try to move on from this. (We know it's hard) We're talking emotionally, not physically. Let us know if we can help in the future. And keep in touch and let us know how you're doing.
Is it possible I was too honest with him or said what i wanted too soon?
I think we are not on the same page. I don't understand why he would be obsessively liking my facebook posts. obviously he knows i will see it so i'm not sure if its just to keep him in my mind or what. I'll continue to do my thing and dating around. I believe its a numbers game. The more i talk to/date the higher my chances of meeting someone. I'm still young so no rush. it will happen when it happens. i think i'm just annoyed because its hard to find someone on the same page.
@Amy......We're all for independence in the boundaries of a relationship. We think people should keep their friends and enjoy time with other people besides their partner. But that doesn't mean being separated it just means that they don't have to spend every waking moment with their partner. And going out and doing things apart, makes the time together more interesting. However, any guy who's way into a girl doesn't need any sort of physical space. We just don't think this guy is on the same page as you. And we don't think he's as into you as you are into him. Sorry, we hate to say that, but that's our perspective. What do you think? What's your plan?
The last time I talked to him was Wednesday, Halloween. Ended the conversation with "haha have a good night sweety. have fun." after we had the conversation above about what i want. I haven't heard from him via text or email. I do know that when guys need their space and pull away it is one of two ways. he will either come back from that space wanting more or he literally just isn't that into me and is pulling away. period. All weekend i was on a trip away from home. He has been obsessively liking my facebook posts. It's got to look good that i'm happy and complete with out him & my life will be just as great with or without him. I refuse to text him first as i want to give him space to lead. My question is, is there a time frame for the distance of no contact where I can say he's just not that into me. I don't know how long it takes for guys to have their own space to feel like they still have their freedom. I WANT who i'm with to have their own life and to always have the freedom they want/need as i want the same respect. thoughts?
@Amy......Actually, you misinterpreted what we were saying. He's the one giving mixed signals. He's the one who's up and down. You're fine. The changes we were talking about were you either staying or you deciding to move on. He doesn't seem like he's going to change. So it's a question of how long you want to deal with his behavior. Sorry for the miscommunication. We hope this is clearer.
I guess i don't know waht changes i need to make. i didn't realize i was sending mixed signals. He asked me to go to the bar last night i obviously said no i have other plans some other time. I guess i don't know how to get the situation to move from where it is at while letting him lead. I do want to give this a chance. how long? however long it lasts. i want to just have fun and roll with it but i want him to date him eventually so thats where i'm confused for once i set a boundary i will sleep with you when we are dating. this is good talking with you because it allows me to look at myself too to see where i can improve...
@Amy......We're not ones to say never very often. So yes, it has a chance since he seems somewhat interested. But he's not flying 100% out of the gate if you know what we mean. He seems lukewarm, and usually a guy needs to be on fire for it to have a great chance to work. Why don't you give it a little more time and see? Here's what we think: It's likely this will continue on the way it's been until you make some change. Mixes signals. Up and down. Good, then frustrating. He's content to have things go as they're going. The question is not: Does this have a chance? The question is: Do you want to give this chance? And then, for how long? We hope this isn't more confusing now. Take care and keep us posted.
i think i'm just frustrated now hearing we are on different pages. I want a relationship and he doesn't. i'm even more annoyed because since finding this out he has been making fun friendly convo, which is fine, but now saying have a good night sweetie. have fun. the words of affirmation like that annoy me right now since nothing is coming about it and maybe i'm just being impatient. But now i'm wanting to remove my heart and chalk him up for friend zone. i do want a good friendship though before a relationship. builds a strong foundation. he did say he isn't opposed to dating its fun. since he did just get out of a relationship i can understand not wanting to exclusively date and have the attitude why give 100% when 35% will get you laid. i've been there and done that. i'm thinking i will have to avoid drinking/hanging out to an extent so i don't 'slip' and give it up again. this still has a chance right?
@Amy.....We think you should stop focusing on the minutiae and focus on the overall message. Basically the two of you are on different pages. He keeps saying he doesn't want to get married, or that he doesn't think he'll find "the one." You keep saying that's what you're looking for, and know you'll find it one day. Interpreting that exchange should be your focus, not each specific text he sends. The message is clear: If he thought you were "the one" he wouldn't be saying any of this, don't you think? Maybe it's too soon to run the other way, but as you move forward, keep those eyes open and don't compromise too much to make this work.
HEy! so we've been talking almost every day via text. I know with texting only right now we are feeling each other out. Today i feel like he was testing me a lot. lol i won't layout the whole conversation. he complimented my random comments and how it makes it fun to talk to me. hes starting to see i'm everything but boring. flirting led to him saying damn now you have me wanting a quicky. i just winked. he then said and i gotta put a ring on it for round two lol me: what?? lol him: you said no more sex because you are relationship worthy so for round two i gotta put a ring on your finger ha me: all i heard was put a ring on it which made me think of beyonces song. which made me think time to run as fast as i can lol. i should wait till marriage wouldn't that be the biblical thing to do i'm too sexual for that lol i'm faithful that is good enough in my eyes COMIN ON A LITTLE STRONG lol. he thought that was funny. him: i'm too sexual for that also and i'm never getting married. me: it's completely your right to never get married and to date more than one woman at a time but i want you to know i'm ultimately looking for an exclusive relationship with the right person. i just want to find out if we are on the same page before anything gets taken any further. i would entertain marriage if he was the right guy for me. why waste each others time if not on the same page. ya dig? him: i agree i just don't know that there is that right girl for me. i'm never opposed to dating i like dating its fun and a change of pace. me: i don't know what you mean by i don't know if there is that right girl for me. you wouldn't know until you both found each other lol i'm a hopeless romantic i have faith my better half and best friend is out there. i know he is. i'm too good of a person. him: i dunno. maybe one day i'll find her hopefully but who knows. honestly id love to get married the thought of it all. the life together and the kids and the wedding and all. i just get that iri feeling mine isn't out there lol me: stop being so negative lol you have to believe you will or you are right you won't ever find her. him: i believe one day i will. i just don't see the soon part of it. this last response what does it mean?? he brought up marriage saying one minute he will never get married then saying i believe one day i will was it just so he could find out what i wanted or what my honest answer was? what is a witty or clever response to i believe one day i will. i just don't see the soon part of it. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO RESPOND SO I SHOW I'M GOING WITH THE FLOW. i feel so proud of myself though, it shows i'm confident in who i am now because i can set my boundaries with no problem. Please help me with your input. Thanks!
@Lady in dilemma....We have a Facebook page, but we don't do much with it. We focus on the site, which is a consultancy for dating! Right!? Anyway, if you really think you want to try again with your boyfriend, full disclosure might not be a bad thing. That way he'll really know what he's getting and be able to make his own decision as well. Our suggestion with that situation. Don't force it. If it's right, great, but if you're not feeling it, don't settle. As far as an open relationship, why? You might as well just move on if you're going to do that. Using your boyfriend as a "safety" isn't a great idea for you and for him. It will keep both of you in a holding pattern. As per your friend. We gave you our take on that situation. For you, for him. He's not serious about anything. Here's the test of someone who really wants to be friends: Will he want to keep in touch once you both go your separate ways? Doubtful. You've got to stop focusing on him. We know it's hard, but it is what it is. Sometimes it will be fun, and at other times it will be frustrating. You need to lower your expectations significantly. Hope this helps. Take care and keep in touch. Good luck and keep us posted.
Wow. You got it so right in a nutshell. I just knew i was feeling something but i could'nt put it into words...you just did. Thank you! I understand that i am probably focusing on him so much as he is tangible...and i would need time to unravel myself. I got 3 last questions to ask..before i disappear and act on my stuff. 1. If things do work out with the bf, do you think i should ever mention about my friend to him? I didn;t exactly cheat on him but i still feel guilty. But i don;t want this to affect us as well. As guys, what would you think? 2. If i were to suggest an open relationship now, i think he'll feel hurt and it;'s probably unfair to him. Should i even suggest that to him? He seem to be rather bent on having a future with me, which i really appreciate but i can reciprocate his certainty at this point. How could i reiterate this to him in a gentle manner? 3. My friend do not initiate contact as much as last time. But he still reciprocates and carry on conversation when we text...he also agreed to hang out and asked me for supper last night. Do you think he is serious about being friends of is he still thinking of stringing me along? I don;t like to feel like I am "a loyal dog" to him, like a backup girl he can turn to but never treated seriously. I want to be a friend he respect. Compared to last time, he is no longer as gentle with me..smtimes even abit mean like he would purposely eat my favourite food. I understand since i have no more "benefits" for him. But he still shares things (food mostly) with me and he would leave some of the stuff he knows i like for me to eat; in this sense he knows me well. Yesterday he was telling me about his new place for next year ( i did not comment or share on mine) and his family and new baby niece. He even showed me a picture of her and we talked and made jokes the whole night. Was going to watch some show in the TV room but at the end of the supper he said he think it's too late and i agreed. Sometimes i catch him looking at me from the corner of my eye, or taking photos of me..and i wonder if he is boasting about me to his friends..like maybe he has a FWB or a girl whom he thinks might be interested in him. I am always logical, i don;t know why i am so paranoid around him. I can't bring myself to think good of him...but i cant think bad of him either. And you guys should set up a facebook page and open a consultancy for dating :)
@Lady in dilemma.....We understand. Don't feel silly. This guy has played a significant role in your life. (Or is still playing) He's opened your eyes, and your mind and body, to feelings you didn't realize you were capable of. That's important. Try to focus on that lesson, and less on the actual guy. Understand? He's shown you that you can feel this way, and that there are guys out there who will make you feel this way. Ultimately he's not the guy, but he's given you the lens for which to see another guy with. So be grateful for that. He's done you a huge service. But once again, he's not the one, he's a bridge. With you boyfriend coming, it's good that you've experienced this new feeling with this guy, that way you'll be better able to gauge what you want with him. Our basic message: Don't settle. Nothing has to be decided right now. You're confused and that's okay. Confusion is usually the feeling that comes before clarity. (Okay, that was obvious, but you get our point.) This is all going to sort itself out, and you're going to figure it out. And the reason you feel so confused is because these are important decisions you're making. You're not ordering at a restaurant, you're deciding the direction of your life. Cut yourself some slack and just let yourself feel how you feel. And stop beating yourself up. How you're feeling is normal, and this process is normal. We're completely confident you'll get through it. Take care.
Yes I do feel silly for having a soft spot. I've nv felt feelings like I did. But maybe this 'passion' is what lackin my relationship. I guess I also regretted we became FWB ( even though we n go beyond petting) because I felt that he will definitely not see me as a potential after this, whether e brokeup with his gf or not.Or would he have not seen me as a potential anyway? From what you mention, it seemed like the latter. We get along great, jokes and share thing but he is not emotionally connected to me. Yes I'm confused but I'll sort it out. I think it's difficult for me to let go at the moment because we are staying in the same place, and I don't deal well with missing his companionship. he cheated on his gf and took advantage when i had the timeout with my boyfriend, but yet he helped me with things as well...I'm sentimental I guess.
@Lady in dilemma....It just seems like you want to be friends with him because you still have a soft spot for him, and hope that maybe, just maybe, he might change his mind about you, and then be interested again. That's just the vibe we get from you. We know you're confused and that's okay. You're trying to work this out, but if you still are hoping that something's going to come of this we think you're going to be disappointed. (And maybe you know this but can't let go like you said.)
Maybe I'm using him to fill up some void here, but I can't figure out what. I'm thinking things will change when I see my boyfriend in person. Frankly, I'm confused myself. But if I could keep a friend here.... Why not? I'm moving out of the lodge next yr and my friend's moving to a school hostel. If my housemates and I need some help... We'll still have a guy friend?
I think I still feel a sense of attachment to my friend.... He was my 'support' when for the past yr and it was hard to let him go. I don't know of deep down I still hold any hope that he'll like me though logically I know he's not the one. I keep my physical distance because I felt that I need to do that since I have a bf.It's just that at this point of time I find it hard to let go, yet I feel silly that I'm trying so hard to remain friends, even though he does reciprocate. I just missed the times when we were friends, and I don't have much male friends here. I was once followed and he helped me. In a way, I felt that this friendship is a waste to give up. Maybe I'm sentimental, maybe I feel that we have a lot in common and he might see me differently. I'm confused myself too. I tried to keep myself occupied... I volunteered with an institute... I stayed in school to do work... I arranged to meet friends ( though I really don't have that many here)... I Skyped with the bf and family. But it's so difficult to get this off my mind.
@Lady in dilemma......Keep us posted about your boyfriend. We're glad he's visiting. You should get some answers. As per your friend. You seem set on being friends with this guy. Honestly, we're not quite sure why. It doesn't seem like he's been much of a friend. Is there still something there for you? A feeling? What is it, and why is it so important to be friends with him?
Hi, it's me again. So the BF has confirmed his flight and things will get going :), thanks for the advice...i'll see how it goes. It didn't stuck me till this that sexual attraction is vital to a healthy relationship. With my friend..i stopped contact for a while. He didn't contact me either. I dropped a message with a :) sign yesterday and he replied to update me about his life ( he didn;t ask how i was going though). Then he offered to help me with some of my work and asked if i was interested in this movie ( but did not explicitly asked me to watch with him)dn we chatted for abit. To test the waters, i asked if he wanted to go to the arcade to relax he was like " tml? yea sure." I asked" really? if you are not interested it's fine" and he went like " yea sure, i've got nothing on but it'll ahve to be after work". So what does that mean? Do you think he is trying to lead me on? Or am i sending a wrong message? I was testing the water to see if he still wants to be friends or if he is really comfortable as friends hanging out. He seems to be hanging out with me because he is bored? If so, i think the friendship can be "repaired".
@Amy.....Definitely. Take care.
Thanks! This is a great reminder! I'm looking forward to this as i understand the importance of doing my own thing and rolling with it :) ill keep you posted if he moves it forward
@Amy......This sounds positive overall. First, it's good you resolved the initial question. (Cheating, or not, etc.) You must both feel better. So moving forward: Judging from your text conversation, the two of you are feeling each other out, neither wanting to give much, or reveal much. We get it. The fun sarcastic talk is a great way to break the ice, but it won't move the relationship forward. But it's fine for now. For now, try to have fun, be cool, let him do the leading. And be patient. He has to be the one to take the relationship to the next level or you'll really never know how interested he is. (Women make that mistake too much. They get impatient and then start asking the guy to do all of these things. He goes along with it, because why not? But it doesn't mean anything. He has to do it.) Hope this helps.
okay after i posted my last question. I decided to just text him since it was to clear my conscience since, unfortunately, parts of the end of that night are blurry to me and i can't remember if he told me they were still together or not. That is why i was feeling guilty. so i said , "I appreciate you telling me you had a g/f before prior to meeting me. i feel guilty lol its not the kind of person i am. i value honesty, trust & respect. i want nothing more than friends good day to you!" he said "where did that come from? we talked about it the day at the bar?" me: "well unfortunately there are parts i don't remember. i remember asking you about her and a response of something about facebook official. then you capitvated me with your channing tatum look lol" (i haveto crack jokes to lighten the mood if it gets too serious ha) him: "We talked about how I don't use facebook that often and her and i aren't together. i'm not that guy. i just don't run to facebook to update it when something in my life changes lol" me: " i just had to say that to clear my conscience :)" him: "no i understand. I thought you like ran into her or something I was like wtf is she telling people. But yes i am the same as you i don't cheat. why did it take so long to ask me about it?" me: "i've been busy like always and it just built up enough that i had to" him: "i understand. so are we all clear now?" me: "yessss:)" him: "are we still on the only friends kick then?" me: "lol time will tell on that one. i wouldn't mind seeing where it goes. if you want friends with benefits i'm not wanting that. him:"i'm with ya on that" so the next morning before he went to work he cracked a sarcastic remark "well there you go it's now off facebook haha just for you" me:" ummmm ok ...good morning? lol you do realize that night i was giving you shit right? FB is overrated lol i could care less. my philosophy: my relationships are who i choose to be with and myself not who i choose to be with, myself and everyone else ya dig?" him:" haha yea i'm with ya on that for sure!!! but i also needed to take it off anyway. me" i'm usually 98.78675464% sarcastic. i feel SUPER special now ;)lol him:"haha more and more like me day by day lol" i thought you could give me better advice by seeing our texting conversation. so he really did break up with her so they were on the outs. we talked for 3 months here and there. i feel like this is a good sign. i know it will take some time but i'm ok with that. i want to give him the space he needs to come to me if he wants more. i'm relieved that so far it seems to check out as him being honest which is a breathe of fresh air. :) OKAY, YOUR THOUGHTS? lol i'm not sure if his last comment more andmore like me day by day was a compliment or what exactly.....
@Amy....Yes, keep us posted. This is probably going to unfold slowly. Take care.
I haven't heard from him outside of the next day texting and liking my facebook posts but i'm not one to stay in contact everyday either. it's only been 2 days since we last talked. Anything more and i'd probably be turned off because i don't like things to happen fast. Takes time. I'm assuming I should probably chock it up for the team. Letting him know my values and that i feel bad is probably not worth my time. I'll let you know if he starts approaching me again etc.
@Amy.....Well, what's the latest? Have you heard from him? Has he talked about wanting to be with you more seriously? Let us know and we'll share our opinion. Thanks. ps. We hope you'll share our site with your friends. Thanks. We appreciate it.
@Lady in Dilemma.....Honestly, if a guy wants more with a woman he doesn't suggest a FWB. He might blur the lines while he's in a FWB—cuddle, say nice things, even go out occasionally—but he's still not looking for more, and it's all still centered around getting sex. One thought: We know you said you wanted to try to work things out with your boyfriend and that's great, but don't ignore the lack of attraction if it ends up being there after you give it a go. A lifetime is a long time. And sex is a big part of relationships. Many people make the mistake and say: "Oh it's fine. We're such good friends, and he or she is such a great person. We're going to be great partners." But then they find themselves wishing they had more. We're not saying this is going to happen, but just don't ignore it if it's truly there.
yes, we were intimate and i do realize he cheated on his girlfriend. I do know and understand that if he is the type to cheat on his g/f that he could do it to me if we ended up having a relationship. I also believe though that once there is an emotional connection it can keep a person from cheating since they usually do it when something is missing. I used to be a cheater but now i would never think of doing such action; treat others the way you want to be treated. Is there a way I can tell or signs to look for that would let me know if this was a one time thing because he was so into me that he couldn’t help himself? I would like to think that was the case lol who wouldn't! When would be a good time to let him know that I value honesty, trust and respect and out of respect for everyone involved, I want only friendship until his situation with his g/f is figured out?
i also realised that the main problem i had with my boyfriend is sexual attraction. I trust him and i care alot, but i cant imagine having intimate relations with him. I'm not sure why..i can;'t say i don't love him but i dont enjoy for example, kissing him. It made me feel guilty and like i;m missing smthing in my relationshio all these years...but i've now decided to work this out. I surprised myself by making out with my friend and actually enjoying it. This led to my confusion and my heartache back then...i'm not trying to refrain myself from any contact
Hi, Thanks. I will play by ear and focus on work and my bf for now. I just want to ask, if you guys had ever taken a FWB seriously? Are they F*** partners or more than that? Woll guys ever view FWB as a potential? I feel that this normall would not work for girls, because the would want validation, as you said in the video - one partner ends up wanting more. I asked my friend during the talk we had that time, why did he do this if he loves his gf and cried about the breakup. He said his gf was asking for an open relationship...and they were having problems. and I came alone and i was refreshing. He liked me and hanging out with me. He said he don't regret knowing me, but he did regret doing the fwb because it affects us and he said it also affected his decicion to break up with the gf when she said she found smone new. I'm not sure what to think about this. But it might make me feel abit better about moving on? Guilt and all. It's a mutual thing.
@Amy.......Well, we can't speak to the astrological significance of your birthdays, but we agree that he needs to first figure out the situation with his girlfriend before anything more happens with you. We're assuming when you said you invited him in, that the two of you were physically intimate. You do realize, if that's the case, that the guy cheated on his girlfriend? We're not trying to make you feel guilty about it, but in answering so many questions we look for clues, actions, behaviors, qualities that reveal something about a person. So the question is: Is he the type of guy who cheats on his girlfriend? And if so, who's to say down the road he wouldn't do that to you? Or....Is this a one time thing because he's so into you that he couldn't help himself? Either way, you can't ignore this fact. Sure, people make mistakes, but if he is that willing to be with you and her, without it bothering him, then you have to understand this if you really are considering a serious relationship with this guy. Your thoughts? Feel free to ask us a follow up question.
This last weekend I met a guy i've been talking to via text, met on facebook, since August. We have a lot in common. He asks me about my career etc and we casually flirt. I'm wanting to start dating but with hopes of it becoming a committed serious relationship. He has had a girlfriend and he has always been up front about having her and never talks bad of her. My guy friends and I decided to meet up with him and his friends at a bar to meet/hang out. We had a blast! I vividly remember asking him about her since he were flirting a lot. He said just on facebook. Chemistry and a connection instantly. Needless to say I was enjoying the moment and i invited him in once he brought me home that night. It was amazing. He text me the entire next day. We both agree it was a lot of fun. Next time he wants to hang out I can hang as friends but then will it push him away if I just let him know, "In respect for myself and your girlfriend, i can only be friends until whatever you guys have is figured out." or do I say something like, " I like you, I have fun with you However, I don't think you and I are wanting the same things..." I've learned over the years to set the boundaries I have for myself and it will weed out the right and wrong guys. I'm thinking he is bored or why would he have strayed. He is a pisces and I am a taurus. I think we would be a great match. thoughts??
@Lady in dilemma........So when are you leaving? December? If so, you've only got two months to get through this awkward period. That's not a lot of time actually. If you had another year or so we imagine the two of you could work through this and get back to being friends. But right now it just seems uncomfortable and uncertain. As sad as it may be, it may just be time to chalk this up to experience and move on. But the good news is, you've decided to try to work things out with your boyfriend. All of what you've experienced these last few months has led you to that decision. So see some positive in this, but we don't see things going back to the way they were. We're sorry. ps. Of course you could always try to sit him down and talk this out. Not sure if you want to invest the energy into doing that. Not sure if he will be willing either.
Well, he replies my messages and meet me for supper smtimes in our kitchen. But the conversation is now very superficial. I said that I felt like going to the arcade to do some shooting games to vent my frustration and he appeared eager but told me that next week is better as he need to study. But I found out during supper today tt he went city today with our 2 female friends. Is he just bring obliging to me? The friendship and the nonsense chats that we had.. Don't feel the same anymore. I felt that he is also trying to draw a line, I asked if he wanted raspberry tarts which I made for my other friend's bday he said no even though i know it's his favourite. I feel like he's here but yet keeping an invisible distance. He doesn't talk to me about his family and stuff anymore. What do you think is going on? I really just want the friend in him back. I've thought through and decided to try to patch things with my bf.
@Lady in dilemma....Obviously your call. Maybe he played games early on, but now it's not that he's playing you again, it's just things have gotten so complicated and convoluted between the two of you. He probably doesn't know how to act. Pay attention to how you feel when you're with him and decide based on that.
we used to have all that...before things got complicated. Is he playing again? Then..i guess it's not worth it.
@Lady in dilemma.....A friend is only worth keeping if you know they have your back, and you have fun with them, and/or they make you feel good when you're with them. Do any of these things apply to him?
Sorry I mean initiated the chat the day after he passed me the wings, if chronological order actually matters
Hi, I've taken sometime to reply as I needed time to heal. I smses my friend and asked if he was unhappy to see me, if so then there is no need to remain friends as he suggested. He said that I looked grumpy too so he did not know what to do. So today he asked if I had sm sauce and he passed me some chicken wings he made. Yesterday i initiated a chat in the kitchen as my friends were all away and I felt lonely... He looked down but he tried to ask if I wanna go fishing. I said, sure if he actually get to it. Then he tried to use his book to slap my butt which I promptly swatted him and have him this look. He was shocked. and I was, 'l'm going to sleep", and I left. I had a few days where I had withdrawal symptoms but I now just look at him as a friend. What do you think is going through his mind? Is this friend even worth keeping?
Sorry, I tried to post a new entry, but it still had my old entry saved. Basically I am very "real" with all of my relationships. Family, friends, love interests..i have never been the type to just cut people off. Even if we have a fall out, I"d rather us be honest about the situation and remain cordial. But with this guy--he is leaving me in a weird situation..I told him I"m ok with being just friends, and obviously my feelings for him have not completely gone away, but I wish he would STOP texting me everyday as if he is still slightly interested. Everytime I almost move on..he comes back in. Like the other day I met a guy in my class that seems really nice and I tweeted how this guy treated me like a gentleman by giving up his seat for me when the lecture hall was full. The then texted me an hour later saying "youre like the only person that gets my jokes" and I said, "well I told you when we first met that I get you" and we will continue to text back on forth..Who knows if he texted me because he saw the tweet idk but when he texts me things like that, "you get me blah blah blah" I start to soften up to him again. He is playing mind games which I HATE. And it seems like the only option I have is to cut him off completely in order to get my life back together, but like I said I hate cutting people off completely. But it seems like I have no other option. I dont have many guy friends therefore, I have no idea how guy work when it comes to being friends with girls. This is no longer a relationship problem, but now a friendship problem. How do I tell him I dont mind being your friend, but I want you to stop texting me as if you are still interested because you are playing tricks with my mind?
Hey Guys it’s Laura AGAIN lol from the passt previous posts. So I decided that I’m not going to make this guy a priority anymore. He want from being number 1 priority (in guys) to just an option. I decided to see where it goes, but in the meantime, im not going to give him any special attention ( I hate burning bridges and just cutting people off abruptly) anywho like I said after I cut off the sex, I noticed that he still texts me regularly like friends usually do, but I wasn’t sure of his intentions behind his frequent contact..was it to try and get me back in bed? Or he genuinely cared for me as a friend. I don’t mind being just friends with btw. So texted me the other day and I decided that I will answer when I feel like it because at this point we are just friends, I ended up (bc I was busy) texting him like 7 hours later. He didn’t respond at all..and I texted him the next day “No answer?” And he replied HOURS later “You already answered my question” and I said “I guess youre right..” and he replied, “i hope u know that the world doesn’t revolve around you” and I replied “wow, don’t worry I wont bother u again.” And he responded,”ofcourse you would have that response” and I ignored him and he hasn’t contacted me for the rest of the day..not even to apologize. BEFORE I forget: yesterday I wrote a general fb status about “all these games,but eventually I will get tired of playing when all the trouble is not worth it” that could have been referring to MANY things..my recent ex, my friends, etc. I wonder if he assumed it was about him (I wrote this before I texted him back that day I didn’t have time to respond) question is : why would he make such a comment to me about the world not revolving around me? He has NEVER spoken to me like that. I couldn’t even believe he said that..he usually never likes to argue with me and if I get upset over something he apologizes immediately. Why is he suddenly so snappy with me since the other day that I ignored his text for a couple hours..is that why he is mad? Or because of the facebook status which was pretty general? What the hell is wrong with this kid, I feel insulted that he said this to me..these sound like words of someone who is upset..just can’t prove it. And btw what he asked me the other day was “wouldn’t it be weird if you saw a talking dog?” We usually text weird things like that lol. So what do you think? Geez, longer than I thought
@Laura......This is the same guy right? Well, it seems he hasn't changed. And he's not going to change. He's a player, and he's getting you caught up in his little world of game playing. Who knows why he's upset? (He is upset) It could be because he's used to girls falling all over him and you're not. Maybe he's used to people jumping when he "calls." It could be a game to mess with your head. Or he could be genuinely hurt. (We doubt that) We know you want to understand this more, but sometimes there aren't great explanations. All we can say is, he's not worth it. You're spending too much emotional energy on this guy. And if he is a friend, he's not much of one. You say he's not a priority, but you still seem quite involved. Are you still hoping he might change? Help us understand where you're coming from? You know where we stand.
@Lady in Dilemma......We're sorry. He just doesn't seem worth it. We don't think he's playing a game, we just think the whole thing is complicated and not worth the effort anymore. He's obviously upset about his girlfriend, and possibly puts some of the blame on you. (Of course, we have no idea why??) This situation seems like it's draining you emotionally. Are you able to move past it, and focus your energy on other more positive things and/or people?
Thank you for your advice, i ahve introduced this website to a few of my frieds who are facing problems too. So we had a talk and I told my friend that we have to stop.My friend agreed and said he wants to be friends again because he is "not in the mood" anymore. Apparently his gf found smone new and he feels hurt, he just says that our "relationship" also affected his decision to agree to the breakup.whatever that means.He actually bawled about his gf which surprises me. So we had a few loose ends, he said he still wants to be friends so that he can bring back food from his workplace for me still, or even if we don;t talk, we can still smile at one another. So i said..ok. I messaged him the next day to ask if he is ok, and that i need his help with the car (because i have no one else here that i could approach). he said ok, he will help me. But now he's ignoring me when he sees me. I don;t even feel like a friend.We'll just walk past one another, and when i messaged him to ask about it, he said because i looked gloomy. So what is going on now? What game is this? If he don;t even want to be be friends why bother? I've decided to ask one of my coursemates whom i'm not familiar with to help me with the car
Thank you for your advice, i ahve introduced this website to a few of my frieds who are facing problems too. So we had a talk and I told my friend that we have to stop.My friend agreed and said he wants to be friends again because he is "not in the mood" anymore. Apparently his gf found smone new and he feels hurt, he just says that our "relationship" also affected his decision to agree to the breakup.whatever that means.He actually bawled about his gf which surprises me. So we had a few loose ends, he said he still wants to be friends so that he can bring back food from his workplace for me still, or even if we don;t talk, we can still smile at one another. So i said..ok. I messaged him the next day to ask if he is ok, and that i need his help with the car (because i ahve no one else here that i could approach). he said ok, he will help me. But now he's ignoring me when he sees me. I don;t even feel like a friend.We'll just walk past one another, and when i messaged him to ask about it, he said because i looked gloomy. So what is going on now? What game is this? If he don;t even want to be be friends why bother? I've decided to ask one of my coursemates whom i'm not familiar with to help me with the car.
Hey Guys it's Laura AGAIN lol from the passt previous posts. So I decided that I'm not going to make this guy a priority anymore. He want from being number 1 priority (in guys) to just an option. I decided to see where it goes, but in the meantime, im not going to give him any special attention ( I hate burning bridges and just cutting people off abruptly) anywho like I said after I cut off the sex, I noticed that he still texts me regularly like friends usually do, but I wasn't sure of his intentions behind his frequent contact..was it to try and get me back in bed? Or he genuinely cared for me as a friend. I don't mind being just friends with btw. So texted me the other day and I decided that I will answer when I feel like it because at this point we are just friends, I ended up (bc I was busy) texting him like 7 hours later. He didn't respond at all..and I texted him the next day "No answer?" And he replied HOURS later "You already answered my question" and I said "I guess youre right.." and he replied, "i hope u know that the world doesn't revolve around you" and I replied "wow, don't worry I wont bother u again." And he responded,"ofcourse you would have that response" and I ignored him and he hasn't contacted me for the rest of the day..not even to apologize. BEFORE I forget: yesterday I wrote a general fb status about "all these games,but eventually I will get tired of playing when all the trouble is not worth it" that could have been referring to MANY things..my recent ex, my friends, etc. I wonder if he assumed it was about him (I wrote this before I texted him back that day I didn't have time to respond) question is : why would he make such a comment to me about the world not revolving around me? He has NEVER spoken to me like that. I couldn't even believe he said that..he usually never likes to argue with me and if I get upset over something he apologizes immediately. Why is he suddenly so snappy with me since the other day that I ignored his text for a couple hours..is that why he is mad? Or because of the facebook status which was pretty general? What the hell is wrong with this kid, I feel insulted that he said this to me..these sound like words of someone who is upset..just can't prove it. And btw what he asked me the other day was "wouldn't it be weird if you saw a talking dog?" We usually text weird things like that lol. So what do you think? Geez, longer than I thought!
Hey Guys it's Laura AGAIN lol from the passt previous posts. So I decided that I'm not going to make this guy a priority anymore. He want from being number 1 priority (in guys) to just an option. I decided to see where it goes, but in the meantime, im not going to give him any special attention ( I hate burning bridges and just cutting people off abruptly) anywho like I said after I cut off the sex, I noticed that he still texts me regularly like friends usually do, but I wasn't sure of his intentions behind his frequent contact..was it to try and get me back in bed? Or he genuinely cared for me as a friend. I don't mind being just friends with btw. So texted me the other day and I decided that I will answer when I feel like it because at this point we are just friends, I ended up (bc I was busy) texting him like 7 hours later. He didn't respond at all..and I texted him the next day "No answer?" And he replied HOURS later "You already answered my question" and I said "I guess youre right.." and he replied, "i hope u know that the world doesn't revolve around you" and I replied "wow, don't worry I wont bother u again." And he responded,"ofcourse you would have that response" and I ignored him and he hasn't contacted me for the rest of the day..not even to apologize. BEFORE I forget: yesterday I wrote a general fb status about "all these games,but eventually I will get tired of playing when all the trouble is not worth it" that could have been referring to MANY things..my recent ex, my friends, etc. I wonder if he assumed it was about him (I wrote this before I texted him back that day I didn't have time to respond) question is : why would he make such a comment to me about the world not revolving around me? He has NEVER spoken to me like that. I couldn't even believe he said that..he usually never likes to argue with me and if I get upset over something he apologizes immediately. Why is he suddenly so snappy with me since the other day that I ignored his text for a couple hours..is that why he is mad? Or because of the facebook status which was pretty general? What the hell is wrong with this kid, I feel insulted that he said this to me..these sound like words of someone who is upset..just can't prove it. And btw what he asked me the other day was "wouldn't it be weird if you saw a talking dog?" We usually text weird things like that lol. So what do you think? Geez, longer than I though!
Ok will do! Ohhh I was joking with him lol I am not a dancer
@Dana.....We try to get back quickly. Sometimes we can, and sometimes we can't. Thanks. And definitely keep us in the loop as you're out and about in the world. Come back to see our site relaunch, hopefully in a few days. We'll be asking our audience to give input on questions. (On the new Ask the Audience page) All you do is select one of the choices given and click vote. If you want you can leave a comment. Let your friends know and take care of yourself. What's the cabaret? Do you have some sort of show?
Lol I don't have a plan. I still think its important to give people a chance while being realistic. I know what I want out of a relationship; a relationship. Not just sex, because if that was something I wanted I would get with a hotter guy. Lol In regards to the guy, I just played along because it's amusing. He says he wants to see me, I say come visit me at the cabaret. Lol I am not taking it seriously because I don't want that in my life and i am not goong to waste time talking to him. I will just keep being me and hopefully attracted a good guy. Thanks for the advice! I love your site, so quick replies too!
@Dana.......That's a relief! At least you know who he is so you don't have to wonder anymore. And he didn't think you were desperate or manipulative, or whatever, so that's good. All in all, a productive communication. Time to move on with no regrets. So what's your plan? (Not related to him, but in general) Not that you have to have one, but since you're the intellectually curious type of person, we figured you have some sort of plan. So we're curious.
So I did email him which ended up with Instant messaging back and forth. It was kinda funny how he was super nice and ultimately was trying to get me back to his place for another "date". I guess it really just was about sex. Idk why he thinks that will work, but maybe thats his game. Who knows. I feel better now though knowing that he really doesn't know me and I didnt know him. Obviously he is just trying to sleep around with whoever. I just don't know what kinda girl would fall for that. He doesnt call, and when i do get in contact with him all he can talk about is how he is so attracted to me and how he wants to see me again. What a piece of work. Ha
@Dana....We're intrigued. Please keep us posted what you end up doing, if anything. And ask another question anytime. Thanks for spreading the word about our site. We appreciate it.
Omg lol I love this psychology. Okay I think that I am the one that probably sees him negatively (because that jerk never called me) which obviously means he thinks I'm fun for a lonely night or whatever and probably had no reservations about me or even hearing from me. I guess I want to talk with him about this info because its entertaining, but in my head I still feel rejected and have fear that he might think im manipulating him or that he might just avoid me and not email back, which makes me feel even more rejected. Therefore, the decision is mine to make.
@Dana.....You say desperate, we say manipulative. You're afraid he's going to view you as desperate and sad. We think, if he sees it as a negative—which we're still not convinced of—he's going to see it as manipulative. (He's thinking: Your interacting with him is a way to get involved with him. Manipulating the situation in your favor, so now the two of you are talking. And the next thing you know...well, who knows.) Still confused?
Why would that be manipulative? I'm confused lol
@Dana.....Well, you've got to do what feels comfortable for you of course. It's hard to control what he'll think. We don't think he'll think you're desperate. We wouldn't. But he might think you're trying to keep in touch with him; he might think you're being manipulative. It's hard to say. What are you leaning towards doing? (We still say an email is the least "threatening" of your choices.) Keep us posted.
Hmm okay I guess that makes sense. I just don't want him to think that I'm desperate and trying to find an excuse to talk to him.
@Dana......We're sorry this guy is a conundrum. But, not a dumb question. We can't see a huge reason not to text him, or call. But what about email? That might seem less "threatening" to him, and you might get a more detailed answer that way. (If this is truly about work.) What do you think?
Hello again. lol So the guy that I went out with NEVER called me or anything since the date. I am shocked mostly because this kind of thing never happens to me. Also, I am confused. Well I am over it and wish him the best, but I was wondering if it would seem desperate to text him about a mutual friend. The whole thing is confusing, basically this guy that I work with stole this guys job. It was very dirty and I just wanted to tell him how the other guy is screwing things up at work and that everything that he wanted to do and no one would let him, they are letting the new guy do. lol just stuff like that, if that makes sense. However, I feel weird because he didn't call and we haven't texted. I just don't know if this will come off like "Omg I need a reason to text you," or if it is like whatever. I am just not sure if we are friends, or if I should talk with him about it. Its not like I will get in trouble or anything. I would honestly like to know what he thought about the changes and other work related questions. This is a very dumb question, I know. Just keeping you in business!!
@Lady in dilemma....We're really sorry. We don't think it's that extreme. It's just who he is, and where he is in his life. As per your boyfriend. Here's how we see this. You're at a crossroads, and your heartache is directly related. What's going on is bigger than these two guys. The issue is not whether this guy likes you; actually we think you're feeling this way because you're realizing that you'e not that excited to go back with your boyfriend. What this other guy represents—the fact that you are open to other guys—is bigger than who he is. Meaning, something caused you to want to explore. Is it that you need something more than you're getting with your boyfriend? What is it? And that's what's making this so hard. If this other guy turned out to be way into you the answer would be so easy. (Well, no, not easy, but it would be clearer. You might try a relationship with him.) But now that this other guy has turned out to be something other than you thought, the whole thing is even more confusing. Are we making sense? It just seems like maybe you need time alone to figure this out instead of trying to immediately reconcile with your boyfriend. We wish we could make this easier on you. Take care. And what do you think?
I feel horrible now, like an heartache. I know he's not worth it, I know he's not right. And I've started to repair thing with my bf, why this heartache then? I don't know who else to talk to. Is this considered a type of breakup too? Part of my ego felt hurt too, that he had never considered me as more, and that I was just maybe a 'get-off' machine. He probably never even cared about me.
@lady in dilemma...Exactly.
testing the waters on? What is he testing on? To string me along? i only know he is in pain over the breakup currently. I was the one who suggested that we end everything, because he had been distancing and behaving weird lately.
@lady in dilemma....He's testing the waters. Friends could mean anything to him. And why couldn't he be your friend while he wasn't single? (If he really just wants to be friends) This guy is seeming more and more like a player. What do you think?
he said i was his trusted friend "roll eyes*
Hi guys. So my friend told me he is officially single again ( i suspected his gf suggested the breakup). This was when i messaged him to talk about "tying up the loose ends". Coincidentally, he said he wants to be friends again, without the benefits. What is going on his his mind? Is this possible? I guess it really hits me, i'm nothing more than a friend.
@Laura....You're very welcome. Glad we could help. We think it's important to be honest and direct, but we also like to be supportive. Hope we achieved that balance. Thanks for spreading the word about our site. Be on the lookout for our relaunch. More info and stuff. We're adding Sex w/The Guys. (Questions and topics about sex.) And we're adding: Ask our Audience, where readers can chime in w/multiple choice. Hope you'll come back and vote and comment.....with your friends. Take care Laura. And let us know if we can answer another question anytime.
Hey one of the guys--thanks for your response! I've been refreshing my page to see if I got a response since I woke up. You guys are great! I'm glad to hear it from a man's mouth..that's all I needed to hear in order to move on. You know, sometimes us ladies like to dissect every last detail to try and look for something that is not there. What can you do, right? What's done is done..I can only just move on. I'm not even mad at myself as I thought I would be. Yeah, it wasn't the smartest decision on my part to go into, but it disturbs me how cold and insensitive some guys can be all in the name of vagina. Lol now I know what it means to be in fwb arrangement and will never fall for that bs again. Thanks again, I will forever tell everyone about this site! I think if there were more guys like you guys to be open and honest with females instead of that douchey tough guy "I get pussy" attitude, we can actually go back to the days when healthy relationships could exist. Thanks guys! Xoxo
@Laura......Okay, you're too funny! We're glad we could be the place you come when you're desperate. Actually, we get that from time to time, but we think you'll be happy enough you asked us. We're going to give it to you straight, since you seem to roll that way, and remember this is all coming from a supportive place. First of all, you sound great. Attractive, interesting, funny, intuitive, certainly not a pushover. But this guy is playing you. It didn't start that way. He was honest and told you exactly what he wanted and didn't want. And this kind of thing always happens with FWB. That's why we absolutely don't recommend it, especially for the ladies. (Have you watched our video on the topic? You might want to check it out. See our video page.) Anyway, now that you've developed feelings for him and are trying to either gauge where he's at, or move on, he's keeping you in a holding pattern with his mixed messages, and his lame excuses about being emotionally unavailable. You do realize that's total BS? (We're not usually this harsh, but something about this situation really bothers us. Him, not you.) He keeps asking you if you think he's an a-hole, because he knows he's acting like one. Bottom line: To him, you're good enough for the bedroom but not good enough to be his girlfriend and to take out on dates. He's kind of saying it, but you're not hearing it. We think what he's doing is shameful. If he isn't interested then he shouldn't be sleeping with you, and/or continue to try to get you to sleep with him. Look Laura, you deserve better than this. You deserve to have someone who respects you, loves you, and is excited to show you off to the world. This guy is not that guy, and the longer you're with him the more you're going to hurt your self-esteem. You sound like a strong woman who's got herself into a muddy situation. Normally we don't tell people what to do, but in this case, we're urging you to move on. What do you think? Ask as many follow up questions as you'd like and please keep us posted on what you decide to do. ps. Do us a favor? Could you please share our site with friends? Thanks. We appreciate it. Facebook, Twitter, or Face-to-Face, or wherever.
Oh geez, I can't believe that I am posting on here, but i'm desperate for answers. I will try and make this as short as possible: I got into a fwb with a guy that I met, he said from the jump that he didn't want a relationship. I did ask him why and he said our personalities were not compatible. However I still proceeded with the fwb arrangement. We had sex, but I noticed it was different than I've ever had sex before: he would stare into my eyes, make out with me during sex, etc. After sex we would cuddle, have deep talks, and watch tv. The first two times he walked me to my car and gave me a hug in public. The third time he walked me then gave me a kiss on my lips. Initially he used to text everyday (he initiated it) not about sex but we would just have random funny texts. Fourth time hooking up I texted him that we should end this because im starting to have feelings and in a way that was to test where his feelings are at. He didn't really respond to what I said, but instead asked to have sex one more time to almost say goodbye. Initially I said no. The conversation ended. Then he tected me the day after saying ok, you don't have to have sex with me again, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be friends. He continued to text me regularly our same funny texts. Finally, I guess I missed him and said ok,let's have sex for the last time. We did, that day I joked that I had a child, and he sort of got angry. Even though I was kidding! But then I wondered maybe he might like me. So he asked so do you really want to end this? And I said well I like you now and I don't want to get hurt, and he said well I don't want to end this but I don't want to lead your emotions on. So we remained quiet thinking and he kissed me and we ended up having another round of sex. After we were done, he wanted to cuddle but I kept to myself, he asked what was wrong? And he asked me if I thought he was an asshole and I said no, but im just kind of hurt. Then he started telling me secrets as to why he is emotionally unavailable for a relationship. So we met up again and we had sex. Afterwards, I told him that this would be the last time. (And it was truthfully) I exlained that he is destroying my self-confidence because I really like him,but I hate our situation. He finally admitted that we are physically not compatible (I knew he would say that all along, just didn't want to admit it) im not fat, maybe a bit smaller than Adele but he said people would look at us weird if we started dating. He kept asking if I hated him or thought of him less afterwards. An hour after I left he texted me saying, "you think im an asshole now" I never responded, he texted me the morning after trying to joke around as usual. I didn't respond, but finally did later on that day. Since then we still text like every other day. The other day he texted me about something that happened with his friend. Now we are in this awkward phase because we still text every other day about jokes and random stuff. I couldn't understand why he never took me out on dates? Hung out with any of his friends? Or did anything outside of his apartment? Some of my girlfriends said that he is just a smooth criminal and that even fwbs atleast take a girl out for a drink or something, but he just had sex with me and didn't even treat me like a lady. My question is, why is he still contacting me? Is this a cheap way for him to try and get back into my pants? Why couldn't he atleast take out ATLEAST ONCE? Do you think he had any deeper feeling than just fwb, but hasn't matured yet to care what society thinks? *we are both college students, im fairly attractive, never had a problem getting guys, just on the curvier side not to sound full of myself sorry lol* but what was the deal? Thank you lol so much for being short!
@Lady in dilemma.....Take care. We're pulling for you. Keep in touch.
or maybe, i should just reset my expectations. I just need to slowly detach myself.
Well, I guess I feel guilty because at the same thing I'm trying to work things out with the bf. I feel silly for getting in this situation when I have a good bf whom I broke up with. On the 2nd hand, I feel sad that he probably just sees me as a fwb n nothing more. I thought he cared. I'm not sure if I can carry on knowing this is an act. I thought I could go date a guy friend who cared.
@Lady in Dilemma.......Your boyfriend is clearly committed to you. Good for him. However, that doesn't mean he's right for you or that he has everything you need. Logic won't determine your decision, your heart will. But it does mean he's got good character and is worth considering. Your "friend." He's just looking to have a good time, however you want to define that. Temporary girlfriend. FWB. Booty call. Casual Dating. Whatever. Look, you're an adult; you're broken up with your boyfriend; you can proceed any way you like. If you want to have fun with this guy then go for it. It won't define you because it will be your choice. (But if you're going to do it, commit to it. Meaning, commit to having fun and stop beating yourself up. Because it's not good for your emotional well-being.) Does this make sense?
to clarify i just had a call with my BF last week because he said he missed me and we talked about meeting in dec. This is our first call in months. I guess we never totally break up but there was an attempt to.
In other words, what could he be after? is it still sex or does he just want a temporary gf? THe latter is referring to my friend.
I asked him for a timeout because i feel that it is unfair to string him along, i told him he should also date other girls and if we still end up together, we'll end up together. He said he'll wait. So i'm not sure if we are still together but we still keep in touch. What do you mean by enjoying who we are and moving on? as in enjoying the "relationship" with my friend and then moving on when the time comes? Will that be right? From a guy's ppint of view, do you think he cares even an ounce or is the whole thing just a game? I told him no sex and i am logical enough to hog on that. SO why still bother?
@Lady in Dilemma......One point we forgot. Did you break up temporarily with your boyfriend, or are the two of you still "together"? To answer your questions: Yes, your guy friend is smart. He will probably go as far as you allow. Do you need to get rid of the emotional reliance? Or is it weighing on you too much? Could you just enjoy who you are, where you are, and then move on when everyone goes their separate ways? As per being a slut. This is you being hard on yourself. No we don't condone cheating, but you're hardly a slut. (If slut is defined by sleeping around with any guy who has a package and shows interest. Usually a person is a slut when they have very low self-esteem.) You're confused and are at a crossroads, not sure what to do. That's what's driving this whole thing.
I will see the BF n Dec.... Do u think my friend acts like that because i am allow him to? How do i get rid of the emotional reliance. Am i a slut for allowing this to happen?
@Lady in Dilemma.....Well stated. That makes sense. When do you head back home? Or rather, when will you see your boyfriend next?
i have always been more logical tham emotional. WHen i first started out with the BF, he did like me alot more. I was not totally satisfied ie. i did not find him "man enough" smtimes but as time passes i grew to love him more. But i;m not sure enough if that love is enough or does that love stems from us being used to one another. But i do think he love me more.Logical wise, i also knew that he understands and respect me and we are a good match because we complement one another. While i can be overly organised, he have taught me to enjoy the moment and life more.I guess because we have alot of common friend over these 5 years, the prospect that we will get married pressurizes me more, though logically i do know that i should not let outsiders affect what is solely between us.I am not sure if the 8 months apart have taken it's toll, but i need to see him and reconnect with him to be sure if he is the one. And i will talk to him. about this. I was honest to him that i did not feel he is right yet. We had an understanding of sex after marriage and he is willing to wait, to me this shows that he loves me alot. And i should give it another go.But i want to be sure that i detach from my friend first before i try out with the bf again. i owe him that much. I guess i am horrified by myself because i know what i am doing with my friend is cheating, whether it was on him or myself.In my 5 years with my bf this has NEVER happened. I have never go as far to even look at another guy, i pride myself on my morals and how i am logically sound. I am taken aback at how attracted i am to my friend and the emotional reliance i have come to developed for him(to the extent of making out and getting jealous). I keep beating myself up over this because logically i know he is not serious and he is probably a manifestation of my desire to explore, but emotionally i am surprised that i want to know that he sincerely cared. He refer to me by a pet name and said that i'm his only 'minion". He goes out of his way sometimes to help me with stuff, but i sometimes wonder if it is because I am "open" and i allow him to. So far, i am not able to reconcile the logical and emotional aspects yet. I keep trying to think up excuses to build this barrier so that i remind myself that this guy is not for real. hence i keep beating myself up.
@Lady in Dilemma....Stop beating yourself up over this. Since you're inexperienced, maybe you don't realize that this sort of thing is common. Two people are in a far away place, possibly lonely, or at least looking for adventure, they meet, connect and then get together. Usually it lasts for the duration of the stay with intentions for it to continue, but it rarely does. As per your boyfriend. The question is why is there not enough sexual chemistry. Is it because you're not attracted to him enough? Or is it because he's inexperienced? Clearly those are two very different issues. One can be solved, the other not so much.
i think what makes me angry at myself the most...is thatI might had hoped for more until i realise he might be just treating me as a play and one of the care and concern was real...even as a friend. He could be just acting so that i'm hooked.
could i increase the sexual chemistry with my bf? how do i address that? My boyfriend is inexperienced...so am i. that' why i feel played. I don;t think he is unhappy with his gf nor he was going to leave her, but why do all these gesnture like holding hands and stuff. What does he get out form that? I think we are both lonely here. Is it because he feel that i might like it? I certainly did not encourage it and i feel belittled.
@Lady in dilemma.......This new guy represents what you don't have with your boyfriend, or rather, what you wish you had with your boyfriend. (Sexual chemistry. Or at least the kind you desire.) It may be less about him specifically, and more about your awakening. As per holding hands. It could be a protective thing, but he probably saw crossing the road as an excuse to hold your hand. Another note about guys: Some guys—certainly not all—could be happy in their relationship, but still be out in the world looking for companionship and sex. It's why men have affairs when they're married. They have no intention of leaving their wives, but they're still out sleeping around. Some guys are just built that way. We don't condone that behavior, just letting you know how some guys think. We can't say for sure which camp this new guy falls in, but likely this one.
i'm trying hard to find out what is wrong. I think sexual attraction is probably one part of it. I trust him and i enjoy being with him, but i never felt that exual attraction. Also because we were at different stages of life (previously i was working and he was studying, now it's vice versa). I have talked to him and he might be coming over in Dec. I guess it will be important for me to figure out how i feel about him then. I know he was hurt when i proposed the timeout, if i were to suggest to get back together i want to be sure. I also need to figure how to detach myself from my friend in the meanwhile, though the end of contract at our current lodging will cut things off. I am also curious to asking about the holding hands part. My friend tried to hold on hand when we are crossing the road on a few occasions. He will stretch out his hand to me also. To guys,is it intentional and if meant anything, or was it a friendly gesture. Also, if a guy is not serious about a girl, why listen to her? He never mentioned about his girlfriend to me at all ever since we got into the "gray zone". If a guy is happy in his relationship, why go looking for companionship? This somehow reflects myself...i am asking this because it helps me understand myself. I am happy in my relationship with the bf( or at least i thought i was), why is it that i feel that something is missing and that i want to explore?
@Lady in dilemma.......We understand this is complicated and confusing. Processing is very important. Hashing things out, throwing out ideas. That's why we said we were confident you'd figure it out. As you process things will become clearer and clearer. We're sorry that things are tough right now. And we don't mind at all that you're venting here. We hope we're helping at least a little. What do you plan to do about your boyfriend?
i appreciate though, that my friend still listens to me seriously when i talk, though i do sense that he sometimes try to make a hasty exit if he has work to rush or maybe if it get too personal, like me talking about my grandfather. But yet other times, he would listen to me talk (maybe he was zoning out in the meanwhile, i don;t know). If he was just a player, or just mean i will find it alot easier to distance my self. Because we started off as friends and I still wish to keep him as a friend, things got abit complicated as i feel attached.Sometimes i wonder why guys do this, evne though they will lead to nowhere? i think i know what i need to do, in fact i am resigned to the "fate" of our friendship, i just find it very sad. I also feel sad about my bf. But since i cant talk about this to anyone here, i can only vent my thought here. I hope you guys don;t mind.
Hi there. It is confusing and i'll need time. My friend and I just went out yesterday to the city but i realised that he didn't really dress up.Just slacks and t shirt.Likewise, while we enjoy each other's company, our conversation is shallow compared to last time. I feel like i'm losing him as a friend, but i wonder if this is because we got abit physical. He tried to hold on hand when we are crossing the road on a few occasions. He will stretch out his hand to me also. I didn;t take it. But i wonder if it was intentional and if meant anything, or was it a friendly gesture. If it meant something, why bother? I didn;t react because i didn;t see a point, but i didn't explicitly pull my hand away as well, which i should. Looking at this, i see how my bf is alot more serious in the way he treat me. I feel very bad for wanting to explore when i have an excellent guy like him, but i keep feeling that something is missing and i cannot figure out what. I don;t think you can help much here, but thank you for your advice.
@Lady in Dilemma.....We're sorry. We know this is confusing. But we're confident you'll figure it out. let us know if we can help in the future. Take care.
@Lady in dilemma......First of all, don't beat yourself up over this. He didn't use you. He just has a different viewpoint about what's going on. Actually, from our point of view, you seem pretty on top of this. (Far from clueless, like a lot of people. So stop worrying about that.) The other thing is that we can't always control who we fall for or care for. Just because this guy might not be "available" doesn't mean he's not fun to talk to, charming, and interesting. People don't come in complete packages. There are always pieces missing, with some assembly required. On the topic of love. Love to a guy is very closely related to attraction. If a guy does not want to have sex with a woman he'll never fall in love with her. And that attraction will be enough to sustain that "love" for a while. Love actually builds from that initial physical attraction. Explaining that is impossible because how the love builds from that point is different for every guy. But once again, seeing a woman, and having a strong desire for her physically is how it all begins. Does that help? ps. And once again, please share our site with friends. Please keep us posted on how things progress with this guy and your boyfriend. We're interested for sure. And don't be shy. Ask as many questions as you'd like. Take care.
i am guessing he is attracted to me but i know that he does not love me.
yes, i'm going to hurt the BF so much :( but thanks, i'll consider that very carefully. I think i'm still unabke to cut contact off completely but i'll try to wean myself off. You are right, he is taking my cue. I've just wanted to know if he had treated/cared for me seriously even as a friend rather than a fling.But i guess that don't matter since he's cheating anyhow and i've already taken a beating to my own self worth by allowing him to do so. I'll keep you guys updated...thank you very much Last qns...What is love to a guy? attraction is physical, but is love more of an emotional bond? How would a guy differentiate attraction from love?
@Lady in dilemma.....Your boyfriend: We suggest strongly that you follow your gut. Meaning, if you really need to explore and see what's out there, then you should do that. Otherwise, you're always going to wonder, and at some point you're going to resent your boyfriend—although it's not his fault—for holding you back. And this is life in a nutshell. Timing is a bitch. It often forces us to make decisions we're not ready to make, one way or another. The other guy: The reason we say this guy isn't playing you, is because he hasn't lied to you about having a girlfriend. If he kept that a secret, then tried to sleep with you, he'd be playing you. But that doesn't mean he's serious. Like we said, he wants to have fun, have sex with you, hang out, enjoy your time together and when it's done it's done. We know you probably don't operate that way, but that's likely what he's thinking. So what this means is, you're going to have to be the one to make the decision for both of you. He's going to do whatever you want to do. Last thing: Guys can compartmentalize relationships, and sex and love. He may love his girlfriend, but that doesn't prevent him from wanting to have sex with other girls. We're not saying every guy would act on this impulse, but believe us, it's there for every guy. Last thought: You do realize he's cheating on his girlfriend? That says something about his character, wouldn't you say?
hi there, i do appreciate your prompt and honest reply. I agree that it's 2 seperate issues. I feel like i'm safe with my bf and i know him, but yes now that we have been together for 5 years i do suddenly feel like i want to know what it is like with other people, how can i be sure he is the one? the next level to our relationship which he is ready to look at is marriage. It scared me. But yet i feel like i cant find someone who understand me better. So yes, i am considering working things out with him. I guess loneliness plays a part here too, and when someone lends a helping hand you kind of get attached. How is it possible though, that he is not playing me? How can he care for both me and his girlfriend? This is what i would like to understand from you guys. Sometimes i find myself rationalising that there are some benefits or he has some agenda behind every action because i want to build a barrier e.g. when he woke up at 5am to send me to the airport in my car, i rationalised that it was because he need to borrow my car to fetch his best friend who was going to visit him. But then he offered to fetch me back too. Why are there so many mixed signals? Is he just keeing me on the hook? If so, i should cut the line. We decided to be there for each other till the end of the contract at the place we are staying at, afterwhich i told him we should not keep in touch. We never talked about his Gf or my BF, but as you rightly pointed out i supposed that means he never considered me as GF material seriously. Which kind of hurts as well. Is it because it's too big a risk to him because he knows his GF well? If he is happy in his relationship, why would he seek out other girls?
@Lady in dilemma.....You have to separate issues going on, but you're trying to lump them together. On the one hand you have your boyfriend who you're not sure about. We can understand. He's your first, and you don't have anything/anyone to compare him to. (Until this guy) And now that you see what else is out there, or that there could be other interesting guys out there, you're not quite sure how you feel, or how to proceed with that relationship. Our sense is, you'd really like to be out their testing the waters for a while just to see what's it like, but you're also afraid of losing your boyfriend, if at some point you'd like to come back to him. Is there some truth to that? (There's nothing wrong with that. Relationships are as much about love as they are timing. To us, it seems you need more time to figure out what you want. And who you want to be in a relationship.) This new guy represents your need to explore rather than him specifically. However, he's part two of your dilemma. We do think he'd like to have sex with you but that doesn't necessarily mean he's playing you. He's being somewhat honest with you, right? He's told you about his girlfriend—he didn't have to. He's told you he cares for you, but he also hasn't said anything about leaving his girlfriend. (That's pretty telling.) But why should he? This is kind of like meeting someone on vacation. It's always somewhat intense when you meet someone away from your every day environment and life. Our sense of this, this is something fun for now, and maybe a good eye opener for you—for what else is out there—but not necessarily a relationship that's meant to be more than that after your time together is up in Sydney. That's how he probably sees it. We're not saying that for sure, but based on all that you're telling us, that's what it looks like. So you have some choices here. 1. Stop seeing this guy. 2. See this guy as a friend. (That might be kind of hard.) 3. Since you've taken a break from your boyfriend, have a relationship with this guy, even if he's not going to leave his girlfriend. Have fun with it. Whatever you do, your two issues are separate. Sure, one may impact the other, but you need to evaluate each of them on their own. What are your thoughts? Keep us posted as this progresses. And ask as many follow up questions as you’d like. ps. Please let your friends know about our site. Share on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Google Plus, etc. Thanks. We appreciate it!
ps: i was also frank with the Bf by telling him i'm not sure about the relationship anymore. The physical intimacy only started after the timeout. Inside i think i do hope that i matter alot more to my friend, if we had been in normal circumstance i will have "chased" after him, but we are not. We have not talked about leaving our other halves before, and I will not broach it. I felt that if he leave, it has to be because he felt that his gf if not for him, not because of me...otherwise the foundation is not right. Otherwise, we are both just using each other for company.I know that i am confused and i'm not innocent. I guess what i want to ask u guys is...did he really care? Or was he just trying to see if he could push me for sex eventually (even though i had explicitly said no and I stopped him if i felt he went too far). I don;t know why but it felt like i will feel less used if he had cared. Why would he hug me when i am upset, buy stuff for me when he goes grocery shopping etc, take what i say into heart and try to make little changes e.g. asking me to hang out at to watch a movie or to see penguins etc.
I came to Sydney to study my masters 6 months ago, and i began a long term distance relationship with my boyfriend, who had been together with me for 5 years. We have our difficult times but we are rather stable and we have plans to settle down when i return in 2 years' time. I met another guy friend here 6 months ago..we started out as just normal friends and my common friends have been telling me that he looked interested (but they might be wrong). When we got a chance one day to know each other better , we talked about our other halves (he has been attached to his gf for 10 years) and our families one night when he came over to my room. He started cooking for me too when our common friend went back for a week. Somehow, i find myself paying abit more attention to him. My bf was my first, and i trust him with my life but i have not been able to take the leap of faith into marriage because i am not sure if i love him that much or am i just used to having him around. It also seems as he is more attached to me and i'm the more independent one. My friend and i got closer and on one event we actually started to cuddle (lay our head on each other's shoulders, abit of a hug). I also started to get jealous when he was nice to other girls, so i was in tears one day, asking him if to him i was just a good friend like the others. He thought for a while and said no, he cared for me alot more. But when i mentioned that i felt guilty about the whole thing (towards my boyfriend) and i asked if he felt the same, he replied that he think that he is able to segregate "us" from his relationship with his girlfriend. So i asked if we are considered friends with benefits (even though nothing happened), he said abit. Then he went on to say thay he felt safe and comfortable with me..and it's not easy for him to feel like that with someone. He is also not able to cuddle if he had no feelings for me completely, but he cant tell me what. I think we both have high stakes; i'm not sure about him but i will never ask him to leave his gf, my pride and morals won't allow me to. But yet i am attracted to him. We want to go cold turkey, but it was difficult with so many common friends. So we decided to still be friends till the end of our lodging contract. I suggested keeping the current relationship as i would find it too difficult to give up the friendship over her in aussie, back home i'll company and distraction and the end of the year seems like a good beginning. But we were watching a movie and chatting one day and we ended up kissing on the lips. I texted him and said" that was a platonic kiss right?", and he replied "platonic it is". I wasn;t sure if he was following my cue or did he mean it, but i understand and was hurt when he seemed to agree so easily when i suggested going cold turkey. On one hand i felt used and degraded, on the other i have developed this emotional reliance on him. If we had no common friends, i could just cut this relationship off, but we do and our common friends have NO idea we are even that close. I was thinking of continuing being friends but drawing a line on the physical stuff. No more cuddling, hugs or kisses. I also asked my bf for a timeout to rethink about things. But things have progressed and my friend and I started making out. I told him sex is out of the question and he respects that. He suggested and offered to go to the hospital with me, and asked me out in round-about ways. E.g i feel like eating dim sum, i thought you are bringing me to a good place. Recently i broke down in front of him becuase i felt like a bootycall (he always messages me and if we do meet, we meet in each other;s room after he ends work). I told him that i felt that we are not able to chat or enoy each other's companu lije last time since we have gotten closer physically. I guess on my part, i felt guilty and i am so scared of being used by him. When i try to keep my distance, he can sense it and he thought i was throwing a tantrum and he got pissed.Interestingly he started to ask me out to watch a movie or to do things that we talked about like time. I'm still not sure about my bf, but i do appreciate him alot more. As a result, i started to reinvest alot into maintaning our relationship..if that can be considered my takeaway. So guys, am i being played by my friend here? Or is he just testing waters because he had such high stakes? I was surprised he actually took what i said to heart, but is he just playing to keep me on the hook? I admit that i like him alot, but i just fee; that i cannot trust him like i trust my bf. Am i doing smthing wrong? The whole things is so complex and twisted.
@Dana.....Of course it is. Guys get lonely too and sometimes just want company. He could be testing the waters; he could just enjoy talking with you; maybe he likes kissing you and that's worth the extra mile right there. And why wouldn't he act charming during your date? It's possible he's not sure what to do with you. He could be trying to take it slow, leading up to some sexual encounter before he leaves. He could be laying the foundation—although he could be doing a better job of it—to keep in touch after he moves. (You don't say where you live so we don't know how far it is from NY) Or he could be enjoying a woman's company in a carefree way. We know it's frustrating when a guy sends mixed signals. He's definitely doing that, and sometimes there is no good explanation for that. (We don't know the guy.) So once again, have fun with him, but only do what you're comfortable doing. And until he starts being consistent, that shouldn't be too much unless you want to get hurt. For now, we'd say enjoy getting a free night out with someone you like spending time with. Hope this helps. Ask another question anytime. ps. And please let your friends know about us. Thanks. We appreciate it.
Hello again, so here is my follow up question.. I went out with him again and I had a great time, we were kissing a lot at the end and he was a total gentlemen. Basically, he was treating me like we were bf and gf. You know, the way you interact with each other. He seemed to be so into me. We were even texting that night and said things like he had a great time, etc. However, during the date he said that he is trying to move in a few months out of state, which kinda annoys me to as why he asked me out, but I liked the company. I don't really care that it is not going anywhere. I am just confused as to why he hasn't called. He was acting so into me. I would blame it on him moving, but that didn't stop him from asking me out in the first place. To be honest, I know its not going anywhere at this point. I am just trying to understand the thought processes behind this. He could just be a jerk, and probably is, but its so weird. Who does that? If a guy doesn't like you why would they put forward the extra mile long after its necessary? Also, he made it seem so easy like we were bf and gf, do guys ever put on that role in order to feel like they have something or if they are lonely? It kinda felt like I was providing the "gf experience" without the physical aspect. Because he obviously isn't interested in me or he would of wanted to see me again. The odd thing is, I can picture him calling me in a week or two wanting to go out, but not for necessarily anything sexual, but for the company. Hope that makes sense, I am just wondering if that is possible or even common.
@Tiffany.......There's absolutely nothing wrong with you. Let's get into this guy's psyche so you can understand what's going on with him. Remember, a guy's ego is a fragile thing, and right off the bat he's feeling insecure because you're way more experienced than he is. It's not like he's slept with a few people, and you've slept with a few more, he's a virgin, and you're not. Simple as that. That makes him uncomfortable. Also, if he's really into you—you don't say if this is just a hook up or something more serious—then that can also make him feel nervous. You see, every guy wants to be the best for every woman they sleep with. No, that's not possible, but that's how guys think. He wants you to think he's amazing in the sack even though he understands that in some ways it's not possible because it's a new world to him. It's an interesting concept to ponder. Everything a person does well in life takes a lot of practice. If this guy is an athlete, well, he's had to work at it. If he's a musician, he's had to practice hours and hours. He has to work at school, do homework, write papers, in essence practice to get better. But when it comes to sex, guys think they should just be able to walk in, take care of the business, and have it be the most amazing thing ever. Funny to think about, but also a ton of self-imposed pressure. So this is a long-winded answer to your short question, but we think a necessary one. In fact so necessary, that we may even make this a post on our Ask the Guys page. (We'll change your name if you'd like.) So what do you think? Does this make sense to you? So here's the solution: Don't talk about what happened. And don't create this huge buildup like, "Saturday night we're going to consummate our relationship." That's too much pressure. Just let it happen naturally. Maybe while sitting on the couch, watching a movie, start kissing gently, and kind of go from there. Maybe instead of going the whole way you start with some other type of "pressure relievers" if you know what we're saying. There are other ways to enjoy each other besides just intercourse. No pun intended, but build up slowly to the final consummation. But to reiterate what we started with, this is no way a commentary on your attractiveness or beauty. It's a common situation that happens more than you might imagine, something that guys don't like to talk about. Hope this helps. Questions? Feel free to keep asking. And keep us posted. ps. And please let your friends know about us. Leave us a reply please. Thanks!
So I have been talking to this guy for a while now. He's 20 and im almost 19, anyways I'm not a virgin I lost that at 13 and I had a baby at 17 but he is. Well today we finally tried and I couldn't get him to stay excited for anything... And I tried everything! I have never had this happen before because usually all I have to do is look a guys way and there ready to go but not him... Is there something wrong with me or what happened?
@Dana........Obviously he's into you, or at least attracted to you or he wouldn't be wasting his time. But the question we have for you is, how do you know he's not seeing other women and getting his sexual needs met with them? (We're not saying he is, but the question came to mind.) We imagine he enjoys being with you, likes kissing you, and is hoping that he'll be able to break you down slowly over time. (He's definitely thinks you're pretty cute.) We can't blame him for that. It's pretty natural as long as he doesn't try to coerce you to do anything you're not comfortable with. It's still too early to get all the answers you're looking for. This may be just a physical conquest for him, but he might have more serious intentions in mind. It's just too early to tell right now. Take it slowly and just see. And trust your gut. Feel free to ask us a follow up question anytime. And please let your friends know about us. Thanks!
I meet this guy through a friend a couple of months ago. He gave me his number and we eventually went out on a date. He was super nice and I really liked him. However, I was a little nervous that he might be a player and when he asked me out again by text four days later, my other friend at the time told me that I shouldn't go, so i didn't. I really didn't have a good reason to not see him again other than that and he was much older than me and I thought he might be trying to play me. I am 21 and he is 28. I thought we had a good connection though when we went out. He seemed to be really impressed and respected my beliefs. I continued to see him at other events and talked to him and he seemed really nice, I just couldn't see him as a player. I eventually told him the reason as to why I said no to the second date in order to see him again. I told him I heard that he slept around a lot and that he was just trying to sleep with me because I was young and stupid...which I didn't "hear", but that is how I felt it was at the time I declined the date. He told me he knew I wasn't like that and wasn't trying to sleep with me. Anyways, he said he still liked me, but nothing happened because he was moving to NY. However, I saw him a month later and I guess he said that plans changed and he couldn't move (definite fact). He said that we should get together sometime and we are planning something when he gets back in town. On the first date, we kissed for a while, but there was no tongue or anything like that. While we were talking he said that we should go out again and that he wanted to make-out/kiss me again. I am very flirty so I entertained that thought, I don’t think kissing him would be that bad. Although, he was really focused on that aspect and even said that we should go somewhere more private so that we can really have fun, knowing that all we would do is make out. For he knows I am a virgin and would not let him do anything but make-out, because that is all I have ever done and especially because I don’t know him. He even said, are your boundaries the same and he was cool with the situation. I also know that he wouldn't pressure me. so my question is, is the motive behind him seeing me all physical? He just seemed really focused on getting physical with me. I understand if he likes me, but as a grown man I am sure he wouldn't want to waste time making out with a girl like me when he could sleep with someone else. I am just confused as to why he wants to see me. Do you think that he is just bringing up the sexual aspect of the next date because he is attracted to me, or if that really is all he wants? Because if that really is all he wants, why wouldn't he go somewhere else for more than just kissing? This whole thing confuses me.
@Gena......We don't like the wishy washy behavior after only ONE hookup. It's a red-flag to us. Here's a pattern you should be aware of. Guy is lonely or horny. (Sometimes the two are the same) Remembers cute girl he used to be in touch with. Contacts her. Lavishes her with attention. Convinces her to have sex. Have sex. Then he's not sure. Starts to panic. Thinks, "What have I done." Acts wishy washy. Hot and Cold. Starts getting lonely again, horny again. Pattern repeats. We're not saying this is happening, but it smells of it. If this is what's going on you should not waste your time on this anymore, especially if you have feelings for him. The fact that he's suggested FWB is not a great sign, especially if you're hoping for something more. YOu might want to check out our video on the topic. (See our video page) So what do you think Gena? ps. Feel free to ask us a follow up question. And keep us posted as this progresses. Also, check out our “Relationship Memoirs” page, especially Charlotte Pescale’s “Rebecca, a memoir.” And let your friends know about us. Thanks!
I've been talking to this guy since the end of February. We've known each other for a really long time. He is from a circle of friends that I had when I was around 18. He used to date a girl I used to be good friends with and they have a daughter. They have not been together for years now. He was the one that contacted me. Wanting to talk to me. Wanting me to give him a chance, even though I was slightly uncomfortable with the situation. His ex and I are no longer friends. And have not spoken in several years. But I still felt a little awkward talking to him. Well he continued to be super sweet to me. Giving me attention and even taking me on a date. We ended up hooking up about a month ago. Since then he's been extremely wishy washy with me. One minute being extremely sweet. The next telling me he only wants to be friends with benefits. When I said that I was cool with the FWB thing. He then said that he didn't think that was right for us and that he wasn't even going to have inappropriate conversations with me anymore. Since then he's broken his own rule of no inappropriate convo. And also has reverted back to wanting me as a FWB. What should I do? I don't know what is going on with him. I know he's been really hurt by the ex. And I feel like he could possibly have some feelings for me. But then he can also be so cold. I just want to have some understanding and know if I should just give up on this all together. Thank you!! Gena
@Savvy......What we can tell you is this situation is NOT good for you. It's playing with your emotions, messing with your self-confidence, and preventing you from moving forward to possibly have a true committed relationship filled with love and mutual respect. We could beat around the bush, but from our experience his behavior is directly correlated to his "horniness cycle." Let's say you get together with him on Saturday evenings. Probably around Tues/Wed he's starting to anticipate seeing you and having sex. Hormones start flooding through his body and he becomes sweeter, more emotional, kinder, less aloof, he does whatever he needs to do to convince you it's not just about sex. Which is also why your time with him feels like more than just sex, because any guy can be charming for a day/night. You should read our "Relationship Memoirs" page. Try this. "Rebecca, a Memoir" But once the deed is done he goes into his down cycle where he isn't interested in you, says you're being creepy if you want to talk, and basically treats you like you don't exist. And frankly, these types of FWB relationships rarely transition into something more serious. You should also watch our video on "Friends with Benefits" for more information. Please take a moment to ask yourself what you truly want from this guy, or out of a relationship? It sounds like you already know, but sometimes it helps to sit down and think about it. Because it's clear that you and him don't want the same things. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask us a follow up question, and keep us posted as this progresses. Good luck. Please let your friends know about us. Thanks!
I was told also I would get a quicker answer by leaving a reply... Theres a guy that I am extremely into. He claims he wants to be my friend.He is a very busy guy. He says that regardless of anything he wants me in his life somehow. We have sex quite often, at least once a week or more. We only hang out at his place. When we are together he is sweet. Most times I sleep over. He holds me in the night, and kisses my face or forehead alot. He sighs alot and says "oh you" it like his main signature saying. He tells me "You make me so happy" he tells me I am comforting to him. He calls me his property in a joking kind of way.Requests i don't have sex with other men. We have deep conversations about whatever things we find interesting. When I am with him, I am his world. He has this side to him that wants me to love him. A side to him, that wants to love me. he calls that his twisted side. He tells me, "believe me, you don't want me to love you. It would be bad" he plays around on my emotions alot. He pretends, or at least i think its pretending to have feelings for me. He says to me "your smart enough to know its not real though." When we are not together he withdraws from me. Does not want to really speak to me at all. Not until he wants to hang out again. He claims when we hang out its not just for sex. Its for everything. The comfort, conversations, endearment, the overall feeling of having someone there. We have quite a few things in common, like music and writing, and things that just interest us both. Why does he say I am comforting to him? And why will he not stop playing with my emotions, even when I ask him to stop? Is a real friends with benefits supposed to keep showing signs of affection? And when we are not together why does he avoid me? Also, if I try to talk to him, he says i am being creepy to him, because he thinks I am trying to make it more than just a friendship, and he cant handle anything more than just a friend. When I go to see him, he tells me that he has missed me. He asks if I have missed him, and I try to just protect myself by saying "no not really" and he says thats a shame. He says he is addicted to me. once he said "Im hopeless". I just do not understand him, he is a mystery to me. Can someone tell me whats going on, cause I sure do not know. Thanks
@Meghan........We understand your confusion. And we wish we could say that we've never heard this before, but unfortunately we have. The thing is, if he wanted a serious relationship with you he would be pursuing you in that way, not trying to be clear that he wants to just be friends. Now you might wonder, "Then why is he grabbing my boobs and making out with me?" Good question. Because guys see sex and committed relationships as two separate things. Guys will have sex with a friend—in fact guys will even work hard to have sex with a friend—when they don't have a girl they are currently pursuing. (And even sometimes when they do.) Yes, this sounds pretty awful, and truthfully, it kind of is. But it's not really intended that way. For whatever reason your friend isn't seeing what you're seeing between the two of you. Yes, he recognizes a connection. Yes, he loves hanging out with you and talking to you. And yes, he likes your boobs, and probably other aspects of your physical features. However, there's something holding him back. And the fact that he keeps making excusing, blaming his actions on the alcohol, etc. tell us that this is likely going to be an exercise in frustration for you. That doesn't mean you shouldn't talk to him about it. What do you have to lose? A friendship? Yes, but is that what you really want? We think you want more. And if that's the case, being only friends with him will just be frustrating. And that frustration will eventually turn to resentment and anger, especially if he starts dating someone else. Think about what you really want and then talk to him. If he's not going to step up to the plate then it's time to move on. We wish we could be more upbeat. Good luck. And please let your friends know about us. Also, check out our video page for some more insights. And, check out our "relationship memoirs" page. Some good writers on there. Thanks!
Was told it would get answered faster if I just replied on here: So I met this guy in one of my college classes. We started talking a little over a month ago and quickly discovered how much we had in common. Since then, we've talked quite literally every day, phone, text, in person.. you name it. Both taking the approach that we were interested in dating each other, that seemed normal. About two weeks ago we both hit finals week. Experiencing a huge amount of stress, lack of sleep and nerves.. He told me one day while we were chatting that he was stressed out and thought we should just be friends. I reluctantly agreed with him to protect any form of friendship I could have with him and proceeded to not communicate with him for a few days. We met up a few days later at a party. It was like nothing had been said. I drove him home after the party and he invited me to stay over at his place. We cuddled on the couch after a few drinks and watched a movie. He made some "boob grabbing moves," I stopped him and we fell asleep. We talked about it the next day, he apologized and claimed he still just wanted to be friends. Throughout this past month I have become the person he calls when he's drunk and spills his heart to. The person he texts every day to tell about big things going on in his life. We both tell each other things we've never told anyone- not even our closest friends. It just seems that we have such a strong connection. With that- we went to a karaoke bar a few nights ago. Both proceeded to get very intoxicated and ended up at his place after. The second we got in the door it was like all the pent up frustration between the both of us was released. It was like one of those hot make-out sessions you only see in movies. We both ended up unclothed, but I stopped it before it could go any further. I woke up the next morning next to him.. I was kind of in a daze so we didn't talk about it. He helped me grab my things, gave me a few movies he wanted me to watch and I left. The next day I brought it up over the phone and we started to argue about it. He told me he didn't remember most of it and claimed I should credit all of it to alcohol and disregard. He then told me we shouldn't talk anymore. I was so mad I didn't respond and hung up the phone. Quite literally an hour later he called me to ask how I was. Trying to start up conversation like we hadn't fought about anything. I'm not sure how I should be feeling. I'm trying my hardest to just be friends because that's what he wanted. Yet every time I think that's what he wants he does something to say otherwise. I don't want to be just friends. He's a guy I could see starting a serious relationship with. It just feels so right. What should I do? How can I confront him about it? I feel that it's worth it, but I'm not sure if I'm just blinded by how I'm feeling? Please Help! Meghan